Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 219 › Conversation 219-029

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David

Wednesday, October 11, 1972 · 7:03 PM–7:23 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 14 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); [Unknown person(s)]Conversation219-029 on Tape 219StartWednesday, October 11, 1972 at 7:03 PMEndWednesday, October 11, 1972 at 7:23 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 219-029 ↗

First Lady Pat Nixon held a private meeting with an unidentified woman in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David. Because the conversation was designated as a personal returnable item and no transcript exists, the specific substance of their discussion remains unavailable for historical review. The interaction concluded with the departure of the guest shortly before the recording ended.

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On October 11, 1972, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:03 pm and 7:23 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 219-029 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 219-29

Date: October 11, 1972
Time: Unknown between 7:03 pm and 7:23 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. ("Pat") Nixon met with an unknown woman.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 4s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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The unknown woman left at an unknown time before 7:23 pm.
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  • 219-026 7:01 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 7:01 pm to 7:02 pm.
  • 148-019 7:03 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 7:03 pm.
  • 148-020 7:03 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:03 pm and 7:23 pm.
  • 219-027 7:03 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 7:03 pm.
  • 219-028 7:03 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:03 pm and 7:23 pm.
  • 219-030 7:03 PM · 10 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:03 pm and 7:23 pm.

Conversation 219-029, October 11, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/219-029 (accessed October 11, 2026).