Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 219 › Conversation 219-030

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David

Wednesday, October 11, 1972 · 7:03 PM–7:23 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 10 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); [Unknown person(s)]Conversation219-030 on Tape 219StartWednesday, October 11, 1972 at 7:03 PMEndWednesday, October 11, 1972 at 7:23 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 219-030 ↗

Pat Nixon met with one or more unidentified individuals at the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David. Because the primary segment of this recording was withdrawn for personal reasons and no transcript exists, the specific agenda and substance of the discussion remain unavailable to researchers. The interaction concluded abruptly before the recording system was deactivated.

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On October 11, 1972, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:03 pm and 7:23 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 219-030 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 219-30

Date: October 11, 1972
Time: Unknown between 7:03 pm and 7:23 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. ("Pat") Nixon met with an unknown person.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 35s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 7:23 pm.
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  • 219-026 7:01 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 7:01 pm to 7:02 pm.
  • 148-019 7:03 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 7:03 pm.
  • 148-020 7:03 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:03 pm and 7:23 pm.
  • 219-027 7:03 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 7:03 pm.
  • 219-028 7:03 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:03 pm and 7:23 pm.
  • 219-029 7:03 PM · 14 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:03 pm and 7:23 pm.

Conversation 219-030, October 11, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/219-030 (accessed October 10, 2026).