Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 230 › Conversation 230-005

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David

Tuesday, November 21, 1972 · 7:58 PM–10:52 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 13 sec

Participants[Unknown person(s)]Conversation230-005 on Tape 230StartTuesday, November 21, 1972 at 7:58 PMEndWednesday, November 22, 1972 at 10:52 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 230-005 ↗

An unidentified meeting occurs at the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David, involving at least two participants who engage in a brief, informal exchange. The conversation centers on a shared meal or lunch setting, though the audio provides no substantial policy or political context. The recording concludes without any recorded developments or significant administrative decisions.

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Unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:58 pm on November 21, 1972 and 10:52 am on November 22, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 230-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 230-5

Date: November 21 or 22, 1972
Time: Unknown between 7:58 pm, November 21, 1972 before 10:52 am, November 22, 1972
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

An unknown person talked with an unknown person.

      Lunch
  • 230-002 7:58 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:58 pm on November 21, 1972 and 10:52 am on November 22, 1972.
  • 230-003 7:58 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:58 pm on November 21, 1972 and 10:52 am on November 22, 1972.
  • 230-004 7:58 PM · 5 min — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and United States Secret Service agents met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:58 pm on November 21, 1972 and 10:52 am on November 22, 1972.
  • 230-006 7:58 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:58 pm on November 21, 1972 and 10:52 am on November 22, 1972.
  • 230-007 7:58 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:58 pm on November 21, 1972 and 10:52 am on November 22, 1972.
  • 230-008 7:58 PM · 14 sec — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:58 pm on November 21, 1972 and 10:52 am on November 22, 1972.
  • 230-009 7:58 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:58 pm on November 21, 1972 and 10:52 am on November 22, 1972.
  • 230-010 7:58 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:58 pm on November 21, 1972 and 10:52 am on November 22, 1972.

Conversation 230-005, November 22, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/230-005 (accessed October 9, 2026).