Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 235 › Conversation 235-006

Nixon phone call with Drown on Camp David and Personal records

Saturday, December 9, 1972 · 12:58 PM–1:58 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 15 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Drown, Helene (Colesie)Conversation235-006 on Tape 235StartSaturday, December 9, 1972 at 12:58 PMEndSaturday, December 9, 1972 at 1:58 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 235-006 ↗

First Lady Pat Nixon met with her close friend Helene Drown at the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David for a private discussion. The entirety of the recorded segment was classified as a personal returnable item and subsequently withdrawn from the public record. Consequently, no information regarding the specific topics or decisions discussed is available for historical analysis.

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On December 9, 1972, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and Helene (Colesie) Drown met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:58 pm and 1:58 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 235-006 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 235-6

Date: December 9, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:58 pm and 1:58 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon met with Helene (Colesie) Drown entered.

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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gifts ]

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 54s            ]

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[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Mrs. Nixon and Mrs. Drown left at an unknown time before 1:58 pm.
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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  • 157-026 12:22 PM · 35 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:22 pm to 12:58 pm.
  • 235-004 12:22 PM · 23 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:22 pm to 12:58 pm.
  • 235-005 12:58 PM · 29 sec — Helene (Colesie) Drown, William Hirsch, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:58 pm and 1:58 pm.
  • 235-007 12:58 PM · 1 min — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, Helene (Colesie) Drown, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:58 pm and 1:58 pm.
  • 157-027 1:58 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 1:58 pm.
  • 235-008 1:58 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 1:58 pm.
  • 235-009 1:58 PM · 56 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:58 pm and 4:00 pm.

Conversation 235-006, December 9, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/235-006 (accessed October 10, 2026).