Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 238 › Conversation 238-002

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Travel arrangements

Saturday, December 30, 1972 · 11:42 AM–11:51 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 27 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation238-002 on Tape 238StartSaturday, December 30, 1972 at 11:42 AMEndSaturday, December 30, 1972 at 11:51 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 238-002 ↗

President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon met at Camp David to coordinate upcoming travel arrangements and logistical planning. They discussed the specific timing and scheduling requirements for these engagements. The brief exchange focused on finalizing the details of their itinerary.

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No, I'll tell him what situation.
I mean, tell him the time.

On December 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:42 am and 11:51 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 238-002 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 238-2

Date: December 30, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:42 am and 11:51 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       The President’s schedule
            -Travel arrangements
                  -Question
                  -Timing

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 11:51 am.
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
  • 158-041 11:42 AM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:42 am and 11:51 am.
  • 238-003 11:42 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:42 am and 11:51 am.
  • 158-042 11:51 AM · 59 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Cmdr. Alexander R. Larzelere talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:51 am to 11:52 am.
  • 238-004 11:51 AM · 59 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Cmdr. Alexander R. Larzelere met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:51 am to 11:52 am.
  • 158-043 11:52 AM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 11:52 am.
  • 158-044 11:52 AM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Nellie L. Yates talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:52 am to 11:53 am.
  • 238-005 11:52 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 11:52 am.
  • 238-006 11:52 AM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Nellie L. Yates met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:52 am to 11:53 am.

Conversation 238-002, December 30, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/238-002 (accessed October 11, 2026).