Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 238 › Conversation 238-029

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Camp David and Daily routine

Saturday, December 30, 1972 · 1:20 PM–1:30 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 17 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation238-029 on Tape 238StartSaturday, December 30, 1972 at 1:20 PMEndSaturday, December 30, 1972 at 1:30 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 238-029 ↗

President Richard Nixon met with First Lady Pat Nixon at the Aspen Lodge study to coordinate their personal schedule at Camp David. The discussion centered on timing for recreational activities, specifically planning a swimming session and establishing an agenda for the evening meal. No significant policy decisions were reached, as the conversation focused exclusively on the presidential couple's domestic itinerary.

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On December 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:20 pm and 1:30 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 238-029 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 238-29

Date: December 30, 1972
Time: Unknown between 1:20 pm and 1:30 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

        The President’s schedule
             -Swimming
             -Dinner
                   -Timing

Mrs. Nixon left at an unknown time between 1:20 pm and 1:30 pm.
  • 158-057 1:04 PM · 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 1:04 pm to 1:16 pm.
  • 238-020 1:04 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:04 pm to 1:16 pm.
  • 238-021 1:16 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 1:18 pm.
  • 158-058 1:18 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone at Camp David from 1:18 pm to 1:20 pm.
  • 238-022 1:18 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:18 pm to 1:20 pm.
  • 238-023 1:20 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:20 pm and 1:30 pm.
  • 238-028 1:20 PM · 15 sec — Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:20 pm and 1:30 pm.
  • 238-030 1:20 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:20 pm and 1:30 pm.

Conversation 238-029, December 30, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/238-029 (accessed October 10, 2026).