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Nixon & Bull on Meeting preparation

Tuesday, April 6, 1971 · 11:35 AM–11:37 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation245-016 on Tape 245 (tape position 02:24:04–02:34:06)StartTuesday, April 6, 1971 at 11:35 AMEndTuesday, April 6, 1971 at 11:37 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 245-016 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417183249 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull coordinate scheduling logistics for an upcoming meeting following the President's current recording session. Nixon emphasizes his need for adequate preparation time and requests clarification regarding the specific location and expected duration of his next appointment. They ultimately agree to aim for a 12:00 p.m. start time to ensure the President is properly briefed.

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On April 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:35 am to 11:37 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 245-016 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 245-016

Date: April 6, 1971
Time: 11:35 am - 11:37 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull

[See Conversation No. 42-19]

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Hello?
Steve, after I finish this tape, then I come back to the Oval Office for that other meeting.
Yeah.
Are they going to come to the Oval or the Captain's office?
Right.
And they'll be there when... Yeah, the tape is going to take more than five minutes.
Well, five minutes as well.
That's enough.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Are they sure of that, or is there a meeting that I need to know about?
I'm not going to have any about them, but I'm going to try to impress them on that.
Is that what they want?
They want it.
We all are.
But be sure.
Either way, if they tell me it's going to be 15 minutes, it's fine.
I need to know.
I need preparation.
Yeah, I'm going to, let's have him 12, I don't know, 12 o'clock.
No, 12 o'clock.
No, 12 o'clock.
Well, man, I don't know.
  • 042-017 11:19 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield talked on the telephone from 11:19 am to 11:21 am.
  • 245-014 11:19 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:19 am to 11:21 am.
  • 042-018 11:21 AM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:21 am and 11:35 am.
  • 245-015 11:21 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:21 am and 11:35 am.
  • 042-019 11:35 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 11:35 am to 11:37 am.
  • 042-020 11:37 AM · 3 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:37 am and 1:50 pm.
  • 245-017 11:37 AM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:37 am and 1:00 pm.
  • 001-001 11:51 AM · 11 sec — United States Secret Service agents and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:51 am and 11:53 am.

Conversation 245-016, April 6, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417183249). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/245-016 (accessed October 31, 2026).