Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 293 › Conversation 293-004

Nixon & Bull on Presidential strategy and Political communication

Wednesday, November 17, 1971 · 1:26 PM–1:27 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation293-004 on Tape 293 (tape position 00:03:49–00:06:46)StartWednesday, November 17, 1971 at 1:26 PMEndWednesday, November 17, 1971 at 1:27 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 293-004 ↗

President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull for a brief discussion regarding a specific strategic response. The dialogue focuses on the President's instructions to avoid escalating a conflict by countering "fire with fire." No specific subsequent action items were recorded beyond this directive for restraint.

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Yeah.
See?
I didn't want you to hit the fire with fire.

On November 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:26 pm to 1:27 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 293-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 293-4

Date: November 17, 1971
Time: 1:26 pm - 1:27 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See Conversation No. 14-153]
  • 014-153 1:26 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 1:26 pm to 1:27 pm.
  • 014-154 1:27 PM · 9 min — Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, John D. Ehrlichman, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:27 pm and 2:48 pm.
  • 293-005 1:27 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:27 pm and 2:48 pm.
  • 293-006 1:27 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:27 pm and 2:48 pm.
  • 293-024 1:30 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:30 pm to 1:32 pm.
  • 293-025 1:32 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:32 pm and 1:42 pm.
  • 293-026 1:32 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:32 pm and 1:42 pm.
  • 293-027 1:32 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:32 pm and 1:42 pm.

Conversation 293-004, November 17, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/293-004 (accessed October 23, 2026).