Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 293 › Conversation 293-024

Nixon & MacGregor on Personnel management and Melvin Laird

Wednesday, November 17, 1971 · 1:30 PM–1:32 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); MacGregor, ClarkConversation293-024 on Tape 293 (tape position 01:28:57–01:30:00)StartWednesday, November 17, 1971 at 1:30 PMEndWednesday, November 17, 1971 at 1:32 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 293-024 ↗

President Nixon and Clark MacGregor briefly discussed ongoing personnel matters and administrative tasks. The conversation centered on ensuring the retention of Miller and confirming that Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird was actively managing the situation regarding Stetson. The exchange concluded with the President signaling that no further immediate action was required from MacGregor regarding the discussed efforts.

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Well, with regard to that vote this afternoon, I guess that, you know, everything that's been done can be done, as you say, as far as you've got the word that you propose to do.
Does that help any?
I don't know.
Maybe you have the other direction.
I know you have.
There's nothing, I don't think there's anything to do now.
Laird is working on Stenison.
Well, don't lose Miller.
Okay.
All right.
Good luck.

On November 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:30 pm to 1:32 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 293-024 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 293-24

Date: November 22, 1971
Time: 1:30 pm - 1:32 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Clark MacGregor

[See Conversation No. 15-91]
  • 014-153 1:26 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 1:26 pm to 1:27 pm.
  • 293-004 1:26 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:26 pm to 1:27 pm.
  • 014-154 1:27 PM · 9 min — Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, John D. Ehrlichman, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:27 pm and 2:48 pm.
  • 293-005 1:27 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:27 pm and 2:48 pm.
  • 293-006 1:27 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:27 pm and 2:48 pm.
  • 293-025 1:32 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:32 pm and 1:42 pm.
  • 293-026 1:32 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:32 pm and 1:42 pm.
  • 293-027 1:32 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:32 pm and 1:42 pm.

Conversation 293-024, November 17, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/293-024 (accessed October 1, 2026).