Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 315 › Conversation 315-021

Nixon & Staubach on Super Bowl and Ladies Home Journal

Monday, January 17, 1972 · 3:44 PM–3:58 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Staubach, RogerConversation315-021 on Tape 315 (tape position 01:41:45–01:45:36)StartMonday, January 17, 1972 at 3:44 PMEndMonday, January 17, 1972 at 3:58 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 315-021 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon dictated a letter to Dallas Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach, following up on their interactions regarding Staubach's Super Bowl performance and his positive influence on American youth. Additionally, Nixon directed his secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to draft correspondence to John Mack Carter of the Ladies Home Journal. These instructions aimed to express the President's appreciation for a feature story about First Lady Pat Nixon and the involvement of Hannah Milhous Nixon.

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Position in tape: 01:41:45 – 01:45:36

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NARA Description

On January 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Roger Staubach met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:44 pm and 3:58 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 315-021 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 315-21

Date: January 19, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:44 pm and 3:58 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President resumed dictation of a letter to Roger Staubach.

[Continued from Conversation No. 315-19]

     Staubach
          -Performance in Super Bowl
               -Press reports
                     -Washington Star
          -Significance to youth

The President dictated a letter to the editor of the Ladies Home Journal [John Mack Carter] at an
unknown time.

     Instructions to Rose Mary Woods
           -Editor or publisher of Ladies Home Journal
                -The President's possible contact
                       -Ronald L. Ziegler
                       -Herbert G. Klein

     Thelma C. (”Pat”) Nixon
          -Story in Ladies Home Journal
               -The President's appreciation
                     -Writer [Lenore Hershey]
                     -Photographers

     Ladies Home Journal
          -Hannah (Milhous) Nixon

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Maybe the performance would have hurt more if it was us.
We should have made the press sense then.
It's the more I'm saying.
I saw a piece of work that started last night.
It was a piece of work.
And...
All right.
Are you sure?
No, but the base is going to be something like this.
I don't remember the form.
I don't remember the form, either.
Sorry, guys.
It's a tradition of ours.
A certain tradition, yes.
Yes.
I'm on the right.
I'm on the right.
I want you to know the collection rights and the language you are learning on your own are very difficult.
I have to have respect for her.
I appreciate her.
I appreciate her for expressing my thanks to Ms. Black and the other one.
All right.
Take this over to the rails, please.

Also recorded on January 17, 1972

  • 018-092 3:10 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:10 pm and 3:16 pm.
  • 018-093 3:16 PM · 17 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William L. Safire talked on the telephone from 3:16 pm to 3:34 pm.
  • 315-008 3:16 PM · 17 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William L. Safire met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:16 pm to 3:34 pm.
  • 315-020 3:43 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William L. Safire met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:43 pm to 3:44 pm.
  • 315-022 3:44 PM · 59 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:44 pm and 3:58 pm.
  • 649-001 3:46 PM · 2 hr 49 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Manolo Sanchez, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:46 pm and 6:38 pm.
  • 315-023 3:58 PM · 37 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:58 pm to 3:59 pm.
  • 315-024 4:00 PM · 1 hr 17 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, John B. Connally, Marjorie P. Acker, unknown person(s), Raymond K. Price, Jr., Rose Mary Woods, and Walter R. Tkach met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:00 pm to 5:25 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 315-021, January 17, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/315-021 (accessed November 13, 2026).