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Nixon & Butterfield on Tax policy and George Shultz

Thursday, October 19, 1972 · 10:30 AM–10:34 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 49 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.Conversation368-034 on Tape 368StartThursday, October 19, 1972 at 10:30 AMEndThursday, October 19, 1972 at 10:34 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 368-034 ↗

President Nixon and Alexander Butterfield met to coordinate the President's upcoming schedule and administrative engagements. The discussion focused on arranging a meeting with George Shultz to review tax policy and the involvement of John Ehrlichman in these deliberations. They further addressed the logistics of a press conference and the scheduling of a photo session with official photographer Ollie Atkins.

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On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 10:34 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 368-034 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 368-34

Date: October 19, 1972
Time: 10:30 am - Unknown before 10:34 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

        The President’s schedule
            -George P. Shultz
                -Tax policy
                     -John D. Ehrlichman

                     -Press conference
                         -Timing
                 -Photograph Session
                     -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 10:34 am.

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I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
George said, oh, yeah, but I don't know.
He said, he's very easy.
He said, no, I can go on back and tell him.
I said, well, I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
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Conversation 368-034, October 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/368-034 (accessed November 2, 2026).