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Nixon & Sanchez on Presidential health and Office environment

Monday, December 11, 1972 · 2:35 PM–4:05 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, ManoloConversation385-005 on Tape 385StartMonday, December 11, 1972 at 2:35 PMEndMonday, December 11, 1972 at 4:05 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 385-005 ↗

President Nixon met with his personal aide, Manolo Sanchez, to discuss mundane personal matters within the Old Executive Office Building. The conversation primarily focused on the temperature of the workspace and the ongoing physical discomfort Nixon was experiencing due to a sore foot. No significant policy or administrative decisions were made during this brief, informal interaction.

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I know it's a little cold in here.
This is it.
It's so cold over there.
Okay.
That is it.
You put her very sore today.
Yes, sir.
It's more sore than the first or second day.
I guess maybe a couple days will get better.
You know what I mean?
You're looking for a new person.
You're looking for a new person.
Yeah.
They head down to the other office there.
I don't know.

On December 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 385-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 385-5

Date: December 11, 1972
Time: Unknown between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Manolo Sanchez.

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       Executive Office Building [EOB]
              -Temperature

       The President’s foot

       Food
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                        Conversation No. 385-5 (cont’d)

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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:05 pm.
  • 819-003 2:25 PM · 15 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 2:25 pm on December 11, 1972 and 9:57 am on December 12, 1972.
  • 385-001 2:30 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:30 pm to 2:35 pm.
  • 385-002 2:35 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm.
  • 385-003 2:35 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm.
  • 385-004 2:35 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm.
  • 385-006 2:35 PM · 19 sec — unknown person(s) and President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm.
  • 385-007 2:35 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:35 pm and 4:05 pm.
  • 385-008 4:05 PM · 46 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:05 pm to 4:55 pm.

Conversation 385-005, December 11, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/385-005 (accessed September 28, 2026).