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Nixon, Eisenhower & Sanchez on Charles W. Colson and Family

Monday, December 11, 1972 · 5:01 PM–5:14 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo; Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation385-012 on Tape 385StartMonday, December 11, 1972 at 5:01 PMEndMonday, December 11, 1972 at 5:14 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 385-012 ↗

President Nixon met with his personal valet Manolo Sanchez to address matters concerning presidential refreshments and scheduling, specifically regarding Charles W. Colson. Following Sanchez's departure, the President briefly spoke with his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, to check on personal family matters. The session concluded with the President coordinating a follow-up meeting later that evening to resolve outstanding logistical and financial arrangements.

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Hi, Billy.
How's everything going?
How did the Mama's Christmas show go?
Great.
Great.
Oh, that's wonderful.
Oh, yeah.
It's always worse the third day.
second day or whatever it'll be alright I mean I because I just said it all day so I'm going to move around a little harder yeah I'm hoping it'll be right yeah yeah
What about your situation level once you come over, say, at 5.30, and you can talk and walk back over to their office?
No, no, no, no.
That's a good time for me.
Come over.
Come over at 5.30 and get back all the money I need.
Okay?
Bye.
Bye.

On December 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:14 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 385-012 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 385-12

Date: December 11, 1972
Time: Unknown between 5:01 pm and 5:14 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Manolo Sanchez.

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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       Refreshment

       The President’s schedule
              -Charles W. Colson

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:09 pm.

The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower between 5:09 pm and 5:10 pm.

[Conversation No. 385-12A]
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                             Conversation No. 385-12 (cont’d)

[See Conversation No. 34-44]
  • 034-041 4:55 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 4:59 pm.
  • 385-009 4:55 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 4:59 pm.
  • 034-042 4:59 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 4:59 pm to 5:01 pm.
  • 385-010 4:59 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:59 pm to 5:01 pm.
  • 034-043 5:01 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:09 pm.
  • 385-011 5:01 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 5:09 pm.
  • 034-044 5:09 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 5:09 pm to 5:10 pm.
  • 385-013 5:10 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:10 pm and 5:14 pm.

Conversation 385-012, December 11, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/385-012 (accessed October 1, 2026).