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Nixon & Eisenhower on Personal Narrative and Editorial Advice

Tuesday, January 9, 1973 · 3:02 PM–3:03 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation401-012 on Tape 401StartTuesday, January 9, 1973 at 3:02 PMEndTuesday, January 9, 1973 at 3:03 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 401-012 ↗

President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, held a brief, informal meeting to discuss the drafting of a personal narrative or story. The conversation focused on narrative structure and the effective inclusion of specific characters, particularly the role of an 'oppressed' individual, to strengthen the work's impact. The exchange concluded with a mutual agreement on the suggested approach for developing the project.

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Good.
Allow me over at six sharp, sir.
Yeah, I took you right on the nose.
Did you read it?
Yeah, yeah.
What place?
I'm not saying that's the first place we've been.
I think it's right there.
Oh.
Yeah, very good, but I just thought I was going to check it.
Yeah, well, I'm going to bring him up to the back there, because it's part of the story.
Well, I'm not sure if that's your problem, but this is just different from what I feel.
It's all very different from what I feel.
Yeah.
You know, I've been thinking a lot about that.
I agree.
I think it's better to bring it up.
Yeah.
Just, it'll work, because the whole key to it is to get the second person, like, you know, maybe an oppressed person, like, to get that girl who's like, you know,
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.

On January 9, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:02 pm to 3:03 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 401-012 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 401-12

Date: January 9, 1973
Time: 3:02 pm - 3:03 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

[See Conversation No. 35-114]
  • 035-112 2:56 PM · 13 sec — the White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at 2:56 pm.
  • 035-113 2:56 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:56 pm and 3:02 pm.
  • 401-009 2:56 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 2:56 pm.
  • 035-114 3:02 PM · 2 min — Julie Nixon Eisenhower and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone from 3:02 pm to 3:03 pm.
  • 401-013 3:03 PM · 31 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:03 pm and 3:04 pm.
  • 035-115 3:04 PM · 22 sec — the White House operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at 3:04 pm.
  • 401-014 3:04 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 3:04 pm.
  • 401-015 3:04 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:04 pm and 3:09 pm.

Conversation 401-012, January 9, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/401-012 (accessed October 11, 2026).