Conversation 406-004

TapeTape 406StartTuesday, January 30, 1973 at 12:25 PMEndTuesday, January 30, 1973 at 12:35 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building

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NARA Description

On January 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:25 pm and 12:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 406-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 406-4

Date: January 30, 1973
Time: Unknown between 12:25 pm and 12:35 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President's schedule
             -Paper
             -Lunch
             -Paper
                    -Possible changes
             -Cabinet swearing-in
                    -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

       Cabinet
            -Confirmations pending
                 -Earl L. Butz
                 -Peter J. Brennan
                 -Claude S. Brinegar
                 -Caspar W. Weinberger
                 -John A. Scali
                 -Frederick B. Dent

       President's schedule
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Mar.-09)

                                                               Conversation No. 406-4 (cont’d)

             -Cabinet swearing-in
                   -Haldeman's suggestion for Under Secretaries
                         -Ceremony
                         -Precedent
                   -Press coverage
                   -President's possible remarks
                   -Individual swearings-in
                   -Photographs
                   -President's possible remarks
                   -Under Secretaries, Assistant Secretaries, agency heads
                         -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
             -Signing ceremony
                   -Congress
             -Budget statement
             -Private meeting before signing ceremony
                   -Herbert Stein
                   -Photograph, press coverage
                   -Timing
             -Eisaku Sato
                   -Location
                   -Length of meeting
                         -Translation
             -John B. Connally

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:35 pm.

Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Do you have some changes?

No, I'd rather not look at it.

I don't know what it is.

So we have

Or if you're in a sterile room, so you have to use the brush or the piece that is next to the other side of the room.

Individuals swearing very trying to signal that's consistent with what I'm trying to say.

So we have to have the pressure there.

I don't think it's important.

So we have two individuals.

Swear them all in, and I'll just say that I'm going to swear them in, and they will all be, because of the great numbers, we will not have statements to teach us to swear them in.

There will be no statements by anyone to get them up there, swear them in, and off they go, pretending in the end.

Everybody, then I can swear all of them in individually.

Do you want to cut this off at the undersecretaries and not go to the assistant secretaries and the agency heads?

No, I should have secretaries.

You can't go to assistant secretaries.

Undersecretaries don't mind.

Agency heads, I don't mind having agency heads.

Agency heads, I would not mind.

For example, CIA people, I've got it.

They're important agency heads, but no assistant secretaries.

No assistant secretaries, whatever.

No, they won't.

They won't use it tomorrow.

I'll do the private thing with them.

This auto is what time?

4 o'clock, 3 plus.

I thought it was 3, it's now 3 and a half hours.

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