Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 417 › Conversation 417-009

Nixon & Bull on White House administration and Public relations

Monday, March 5, 1973 · 3:33 PM–3:34 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation417-009 on Tape 417StartMonday, March 5, 1973 at 3:33 PMEndMonday, March 5, 1973 at 3:34 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 417-009 ↗

President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull briefly discussed the approval of a plaque installation and the necessity of preparing comprehensive background materials for an upcoming engagement. The conversation touched upon the involvement of various staff members and referenced specific protocols regarding leadership figures in Congress. The brief exchange served to finalize administrative decisions regarding the President's public scheduling and documentation requirements.

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Yeah, I approved the plaque thing out there, so don't have to do it.
The plaque is better than the other.
And he's going to have people around.
So, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know how.
Workup, everything background material.
Should be put on this, apparently.
He's got to be Santa Maria, the, who is the head of the United States Congress.
He is, as I've said, I'm not sure.
I'm pretty sure.
As I've said, he's going to have all of you.
Sack of Maria.
Thank you.

On March 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:33 pm to 3:34 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 417-009 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 417-9

Date: March 5, 1973
Time: 3:33 pm - 3:34 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[See Conversation No. 37-57]
  • 037-056 3:33 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 3:33 pm.
  • 037-057 3:33 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 3:33 pm to 3:34 pm.
  • 417-008 3:33 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 3:33 pm.
  • 037-058 3:34 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:34 pm and 4:44 pm.
  • 417-010 3:34 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:34 pm and 4:44 pm.
  • 417-011 3:34 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:34 pm and 4:44 pm.
  • 417-012 3:34 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:34 pm and 4:44 pm.
  • 417-013 3:34 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:34 pm and 4:44 pm.

Conversation 417-009, March 5, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/417-009 (accessed October 6, 2026).