Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 425 › Conversation 425-005

Nixon & Ziegler on Public Relations and Media Strategy

Wednesday, March 28, 1973 · 12:28 PM–12:30 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation425-005 on Tape 425StartWednesday, March 28, 1973 at 12:28 PMEndWednesday, March 28, 1973 at 12:30 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 425-005 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon consulted with Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler regarding the day's challenging political environment and media optics. The two discussed a potential strategy for Ziegler to frame upcoming narratives, with the President soliciting Ziegler's advice on how to manage the current situation. The brief exchange focused on coordinating their public messaging approach in response to mounting pressures.

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Hello.
Ron, what is your advice now?
I see.
You have a pretty rough time today.
No, I'm a little, uh...
I can build up to that idea.
Thank you.
I thought about it today.
Right.
That's a good question.
Right, right, right, right.
I think you're right.
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NARA Description

On March 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:28 pm to 12:30 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 425-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 425-5

Date: March 28, 1973
Time: 12:28 pm - 12:30 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

[See also Conversation No. 44-43]

Also recorded on March 28, 1973

  • 044-043 12:28 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:28 pm and 12:30 pm.
  • 425-006 12:28 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:28 pm and 12:34 pm.
  • 425-007 12:28 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:28 pm and 12:34 pm.
  • 044-044 12:30 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and 12:34 pm.
  • 044-045 12:30 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and 12:34 pm.
  • 044-046 12:34 PM · 52 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:34 pm and 12:35 pm.
  • 425-008 12:34 PM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:34 pm to 12:35 pm.
  • 044-047 12:35 PM · 34 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:35 pm and 12:36 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 425-005, March 28, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/425-005 (accessed October 2, 2026).