Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 439 › Conversation 439-024

Nixon alone in his EOB office on White House logistics

Monday, May 21, 1973 · 5:25 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 22 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation439-024 on Tape 439StartMonday, May 21, 1973 at 5:25 PMEndMonday, May 21, 1973 at 5:25 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 439-024 ↗

President Nixon informs First Lady Pat Nixon of a change in his schedule, necessitating that he return to the Old Executive Office Building the following day to work on an alternative plan. The First Lady acknowledges the adjustment and confirms she will manage her own affairs accordingly. This brief exchange reflects the President's ongoing logistical adjustments during a period of high political pressure.

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Yeah, hey Pat, I just want to tell you that I, that I'll tell you that I've got to work on another plan for tomorrow, so I've got to come over tomorrow.
Okay, I'm going to take care of it.
Alright, bye bye.

On May 21, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 5:25 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 439-024 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 439-24

Date: May 21, 1973
Time: 5:25 pm
Location: Old Executive Office Building

President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 439-24 (cont’d)

[See Conversation No. 46-130]
  • 046-129 5:25 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 5:25 pm.
  • 046-130 5:25 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone at 5:25 pm.
  • 046-131 5:25 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:25 pm and 5:28 pm.
  • 439-023 5:25 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 5:25 pm.
  • 439-025 5:25 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:25 pm and 5:28 pm.
  • 046-132 5:28 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 5:28 pm to 5:29 pm.
  • 439-026 5:28 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:28 pm to 5:29 pm.
  • 046-133 5:29 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:29 pm and 5:34 pm.

Conversation 439-024, May 21, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/439-024 (accessed October 12, 2026).