Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 225 › Conversation 225-037

Nixon phone call with Magner on Camp David and William P. Rogers

Thursday, November 16, 1972 · 2:09 PM–2:18 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Magner, John G.Conversation225-037 on Tape 225StartThursday, November 16, 1972 at 2:09 PMEndThursday, November 16, 1972 at 2:18 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 225-037 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with John G. Magner at Camp David to coordinate his afternoon schedule and logistics for upcoming visitors. The discussion focused on the arrival times of Secretary of State William P. Rogers and the First Lady, Pat Nixon, while also planning for meetings with aides H.R. Haldeman and John Ehrlichman. Nixon provided specific instructions regarding the First Lady’s arrival, suggesting she be encouraged to relax or go for a walk with Bebe Rebozo while he remained occupied with official business until 5:00 p.m.

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Mr. Rogers will be here between 3.30 and 3.45.
He's arriving here?
Yes, sir.
We're going to talk to him.
We'll see Mr. Hollywood first.
Yes, sir.
They're here now.
They're holding her up there.
Yes, sir.
They're down in the yard now.
Well, they're supposed to come here.
Well, I guess, I think I told them to come here.
Well, let's just tell them from over here.
Yes, sir.
They're fine.
Mrs. Hickson will still be here about 3.30.
Will she come in?
Yes, sir.
When she comes, I would suggest that you have her wear me really tight into that bag.
I know she's here at 3.30 or so.
Tell her she may just want to stay in her bedroom.
Tell her, say, a man or a woman deserves me.
And tell her also, that would be a nice thing.
When she comes, maybe he could meet her.
Because he hasn't been able to do anything.
And go for a walk around the place.
That's a good idea.
Tell me you need it.
I will be tied up until about 5 o'clock.
Go for a walk.

NARA Description

On November 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John G. Magner met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 2:09 pm and 2:18 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 225-037 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 225-37

Date: November 16, 1972
Time: Unknown between 2:09 pm and 2:18 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President met with John G. Magner [?].

       The President's schedule
            -William P. Rogers
                  -Arrival time
            -Meeting with John D. Ehrlichman and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
            -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                  -Arrival time
                  -Meeting with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo

Magner [?] left at an unknown time before 2:18 pm.

Also recorded on November 16, 1972

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  • 225-035 1:51 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:51 pm to 1:57 pm.
  • 153-035 1:57 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:57 pm and 2:08 pm.
  • 153-036 2:08 PM · 49 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 2:08 pm to 2:09 pm.
  • 225-036 2:08 PM · 36 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 2:08 pm to 2:09 pm.
  • 153-037 2:18 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Norman Chandler talked on the telephone at Camp David from 2:18 pm to 2:23 pm.
  • 225-038 2:18 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Norman Chandler met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 2:18 pm to 2:23 pm.
  • 225-039 2:23 PM · 1 hr 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 2:23 pm and 3:45 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 225-037, November 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/225-037 (accessed October 9, 2026).