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Nixon & Bull on White House records and administrative organization

Monday, June 4, 1973 · 1:23 PM–1:25 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation442-017 on Tape 442StartMonday, June 4, 1973 at 1:23 PMEndMonday, June 4, 1973 at 1:25 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 442-017 ↗

President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull coordinate the organization and review of specific administrative or historical records, specifically referencing a cutoff date of March 1st. Nixon directs Bull to consult with Bob Holman to identify and retrieve material relevant to this timeframe. The exchange underscores an effort to sort and track documentation, though the precise nature of the materials remains implicit.

  • White House records
  • administrative organization
  • Bob Holman
  • record retrieval
  • March 1st documentation

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Yeah.
Got some more?
I understand.
I want the stuff that marks them first before you're consistent.
Have you got too many?
Or do you want to have your terminology on?
Yeah.
The...
Bob Holman has it basically, I don't know if you guys have seen him around.
Just call him and say, after March 1st.
Oh, what did I have?
Yeah, March 1st.
I've got the 27th, right?
March 1st, okay.
See what he has between there.
Okay, go ahead and ask Bob if you can.

On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:23 pm to 1:25 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-017 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 442-017

Date: June 4, 1973
Time: 1:23 pm - 1:25 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull.

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the
Watergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box
172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary
Committee…,” pages 32-33 (.pdf pages 36-37). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff
reviewed the transcript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under
the provisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).
The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[See also Conversation No. 039-067]

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  • 039-067 1:23 PM · 1 min — White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 1:23 pm to 1:25 pm.
  • 039-068 1:25 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 1:26 pm.
  • 442-018 1:25 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 1:26 pm.
  • 039-069 1:26 PM · 59 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 1:26 pm to 1:27 pm.
  • 442-019 1:26 PM · 40 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:26 pm to 1:27 pm.
  • 039-070 1:29 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at 1:29 pm.
  • 039-071 1:29 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 1:29 pm to 1:36 pm.
  • 442-020 1:29 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 1:29 pm.

Conversation 442-017, June 4, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/442-017 (accessed October 1, 2026).