On February 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:55 pm to 4:52 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 451-019 of the White House Tapes.
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Yes, we just did an interview with Jeff.
Right before he came up, he did a loading from there to the floor and up.
And then he's going to do a piece of Bruce Wayne casted brief in the 80s.
And then second in the dining room with the last minute preparation in the dining room.
And then into the evening's activities.
Something that really hasn't gone to this degree before.
So you
Of course, we can't go in and edit it for you, but I'm sure you'll have some interesting material to work with.
Yes.
and uh, and the walk.
Yes, sir.
Uh, thank you, sir.
Uh, uh, he was saying, uh,
Oh, my God.
here in the offsite.
But it sounds like, uh, you know, we've been asking for everything, uh, Grandpa over-signing on Bill, and, you know, whatever, daughter, and, uh, to the Archipelago, and he's in there, he's, uh, he's there to take the crisis on the offense, and, uh, he's the dad, and I'm the part of the family that's going to control it.
I don't know if there are signs that they're fighting like a lion.
He did well.
He always does.
But it isn't right for George to be under the firearm department.
Or maybe, uh, maybe that proves we're honest.
I don't know what they're going to say.
That proves that we have an open administration.
An open administration doesn't go over the place.
It's not about having respect.
See, it loses track over there.
He's meant to have discipline.
Yeah.
He doesn't have to worry about that.
I don't know if you've had it or not, but I've had some people who've had it.
I've heard it all the way.
I want you to talk about it.
I've heard it all the way.
But your theory is not the whole thing.
He said, well, he had it.
He had heard it two times from Congress.
Well, this is pretty easy, man.
Which, uh, yeah.
Which he said, I am for.
We want to do it in advance.
Now, Oregon is the seat of the event.
We need trade with the east.
We want to have trade with the east.
All you do there is to say that there's a cold humming on the U.S. and that you're living out in your solitude.
I, uh, I've never done that.
I've heard it in news stories and everything else.
You know, I do those things.
I've written the Oscar.
For God's sakes, don't put that in.
Stance is going to get hit if I don't speak to her.
She's going to see me this afternoon if I haven't kissed her.
And I'm going to go out over to lunch.
You're trying to cross your desk, understand?
That's the ether.
I don't know what he said, but he said that he understands what the tag is and why.
And fortunately, we're going to see more of him today, so he will be participating in this.
But Ron will contribute.
Ron talks to us right now because he's a good man.
And he's an important man, too.
He was more in character first on this, rather than for Mike.
I don't know what I'm thinking.
I don't know what I'm thinking.
I don't know what I'm thinking.
I don't know what I'm thinking.
Everybody else will think that we're all men, it doesn't matter.
But he must get away from this idea that the Commerce Department, and more than the Labor Department, represents certain interests, and that he has to speak up about those interests.
He's got to speak up within these administrations, but he cannot speak up outside.
And that's true of the environment, where it will mean that we're going to have to get his history out there.
And it's true also, over here, he's got an ensemble.
You know, we come out of that situation where it appears that we're coming apart at the seams or something.
That's why I'm afraid of what's going on here.
Uh, Bobby has a hand in it, so I'm just like, what am I talking about?
So, we're trying this way.
What is it?
Is this the way to handle it, do you think?
I know the water's going to be good, but the fact that Marty is under fire.
Yeah.
and said, look,
And he went back and gave us a warning.
And we began to get some action.
And I've pretty never been at this point of working through Russia.
Who's going to be a successor?
I've heard probably the general counsel there, Jim Lynn.
Oh, sure.
He's an able person.
He's an able guy to go.
Good.
Great.
That's fine.
All right.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
Captain Ross here is always busy and he needs some guidance on the nuts and bolts you can't hold Captain up soon enough, but he needs it.
Say, look, my wife and I, we do the same for many, many times when there's a real high heart, but we don't bother for many with it because he's got it.
He's definitely got it.
But he didn't climb these things all the way.
So it's been really good for me.
Well, it is all that I had an opportunity last night.
I just told a lot of people to get out there and make their forecasts look good and get out there.
And if any of the forecasts are low and say things like that, I'm right as in on the other guy that's done it.
I mean, the whole purpose is to make sure that's all be wrong.
But at least let's try to somehow get all the...
believe something, say something, and make a soul.
That's the whole point of this.
It's side work.
It's even the fellows who put out the GMP figures.
They kept them up.
There's lots of room for manipulation.
Well, there are many areas of judgment.
Somebody has to exercise it.
They exercise it.
This old kid, Laffer, has worked up his material.
And he insisted on getting the data without seasonal adjustments.
He wants to know what the actual data are before they measure them.
And that's one of the reasons why his results have come out different, that he starts with that data before they massage it, and he gets a somewhat different look.
And that's a very controversial thing, but in the process, what he does...
is raise some questions about their seasonal adjustments.
Except the most physical groups, they're not very, they're worried about where you're going.
Obviously, when you put it on, it's like a French dream book.
You don't want these people to face it.
They're not our people.
They're your friends.
They go on and on.
They're not the players.
They're the people.
I don't know what to say.
I don't know what to say.
I don't know what to say.
I've known him for many years.
So, uh, he's a great guy.
He's a great guy.
He's a great guy.
He's a great guy.
By the way, when I said that he's good at this, I mean, it's got to be, uh, obviously he's, uh, he's definitely one of the second fighters, you know, he's the guy that won the fight.
He's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh,
Aaron, he's a pretty smart writer.
I get up here, and I just sit there reading, and what it had to say, or, you know, he said five or six things.
But I had to go, well, he's not, I don't know, he's like, you know, good writer.
He's a good accountant, necessarily.
And he's a very good writer.
Very clever with words.
Well, I'm very, the word is, I know that in this summer here, I saw one of the, well, three things I'm supposed to say tonight.
I mean, it's,
He doesn't think the economy will move up as fast as our forecast, I believe.
Partly what we have here is a difference of view about how fast the economy will go.
And Milton thinks that the money supply increase on the order of 4 to 4.5% is just dandy.
And I'm facing the fact that the economy won't move up very fast.
Well, according to Lampard's model of the economy, if the supply performs that way,
a good strong price.
And so it isn't so much a difference in the forecast as it is a difference about what the right policy is.
And that's sort of the essence of our dispute with Paris.
Did you already tell me about the CDI in your conference?
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
Let's see if I can get that to go down in a minute.
But there are a number of them here.
I mean, I'll mention it five times right now.
You don't ever see that on the desktop.
But I can get it to just melt in your hands.
Go back and read Trinity Washington Star and Econ and the others.
And you will find those patterns have always played the unquestionable.
It's the exact same thing that they always play to you.
But the others didn't.
They always swear to the other.
And then they'll have you go, can I?
What the hell is this?
Why does that have to stand here?
See?
Can we do that, Father?
Just for my own personal satisfaction.
I want that for each of us.
Also, can I see?
go back and read it, and start reading about the last time they did it.
The seasonally adjustment was below the other.
And about this time, we got a push button that immediately cut it off.
And I get a little chance to go back three months to find a good, clear example where the seasonally adjustment was less than the other way around.
You see, there are two additional things here, which are both in the release, and I hope
uh, that the, uh, when they brief the press, they bring these out.
One is that this is the smallest month of the virus since February 1967.
That's three years.
And, you know, just, uh, and the, but, and here's something that's not included in the books, that the average prices
is unchanged now for a year.
The same now as a year ago.
That, to me, it's the housewife.
We're also beginning to get now the effects of the reduction of mortgage interest rates and the housing thing.
It's kind of services, you know, back services.
That's another separate housing thing.
Oh, services.
You know, it's creeping up.
So anyway, that's a little better.
We still had a little effect of that last month, but that's about out of it now.
That's the end of that.
Oh yes, you would have some because the locals were always going to get in anymore.
They get their inventories out for the new cars, and they get into the selling season when they start discounting more.
U.S. car prices fell in this last month, which whenever you find a galactic man, you know, you start to set off the old.
As they also, I think, the season goes along, that's part of the discounting that goes on.
On this international thing, my impression is that Peterson was really getting around.
He talked to the people who were helping him.
staff and he's on a good track with this uh adjustment assistance i think that's uh which is going to be a project he'll propose to this council our guy says uh well this is something that we have pushed in the administration that was in your trade bill last year
And he had a lot of kinds of ideas for advertising.
He had a lot of kinds of ideas for advertising.
He had a lot of kinds of ideas for advertising.
He had a lot of kinds of ideas for advertising.
He had a lot of kinds of ideas for advertising.
He had a lot of kinds of ideas for advertising.
He had a lot of kinds of ideas for advertising.
I've been a little of it for too many years now.
It's, I think, the right direction to be working in.
There's a lot of problems.
It's going to cost a lot of money.
But the goal is to be some way or the other.
So here's the general teaching.
Some way or the other, he doesn't pay for it.
And there's a lot of insurance applications in this.
in the direction of encouraging acquisitions of burgers, which means that we're going to have to list Mitchell early again to take hold of that and trust the people over there.
I had a very interesting conversation with Stanley Barnes about this.
Stanley actually just let me know, and I was asking him,
He said, I had one great event where I took an intimate, regular interest in what my relationship was doing, and was at all times able to represent my problems with the President.
He said, I very quickly input back and forth with the President.
He said, if I could see one defect in your present problem or situation, it is that my partner and the President do not have that kind of link.
Why not?
And I said, well, I'll write it down.
I think you're right.
And I said, yeah.
And I said, yeah, that's our problem.
I think you ought to just sort of let us know where to run that division.
And that's where you link it up.
If you ever desire to call us from anywhere, it's an honor to call you.
I never thought that it was a sandbox.
Linking didn't go nearly as far as a sandbox, but it did.
That's all right.
He worked with the Assembly of the Presidents of Illinois.
You remember?
That's the one thing about the President.
All of them are hurting.
That's it.
Well, I guess it's a condition that we all have to listen to.
You're very often assessing any trust center that you're in.
That's what I'm talking about.
I mean, it's like these airlines and other things.
But one of the things, one of the things, you know, the plane, this new company, yes, probably is going to be, I mean, he's going to be, I mean, on that, over that thing, on the plane, you know, the business guys will all run the company.
What are you going to do?
Stop your side on the line for a minute and see what happens.
You grew up in a period of, you know, the antitrust and all that sort of thing.
I didn't know it was at the present time.
You know, around the world.
You can't see it.
You can't see it.
Just for college.
And it's why our government, the organization, is just amazing.
In some instances, in a bigger unit.
It's the better way to do the job.
How do you do it?
We are here for you.
Take it to be closer, about 40 minutes to the morning, see you okay.
Take it to the airline, okay.
We're leaving the airline, okay.
I hear you, thank you.
Good day.
Are you all strongly alert?
Black and white and brown, we see all of these.
Got it.
10-3, I'm starting to notice.
You just said something that points it out.
You said there's a need for a tolerance policy.
I don't think that 5,000 out of 1,000 attending with this ministry can have a trust policy.
They can tell you, they think it is, that you cannot merge with anybody or require anybody, that there are any secrets out there, and they're not sure at all.
Yeah, that's absolutely not true.
You know, I've been through a lot of people, and our friends in the case, and I don't want to live anything for our friends, like in Tennessee, we didn't do anything for them, we gave them the need to, but...
There is, there is, you know, in the dry land, there's no control, and that's a test.
It's a test whether it's major or not, it's whether it's good or bad.
That's all.
And so there's a lot of that action.
There's a lot of that action.
It's a very bad, uh, threat in the early stages.
It was, it didn't make sense in terms of the competitive picture of what was happening.
And I still think, um, you know, George Stigler,
was the head of the task force for you, right after one of those tasks.
Yeah, right after the election.
On the subject of antitrust, was he a competitive policy guy?
Well, he wrote a damn good report, and he felt it got completely brushed off, firing it off in a totally different direction from what he thought.
All right.
And it might be worth getting that out again, discussing it off and looking at it, because it was a hell of an idea to me.
You know, when it's meant for me to visit you some other kind of impressive times, uh,
Can I get this, this client, can I get this, can I get this door over there, out of this?
Then we better get this.
We better get this.
I feel very sorry about it.
That's it.
That's it.
Well, it has to do with a swarm, or a trait event, most critically.
And if we're gonna, if we're gonna find viable substitutes for a trait event, or for Clotus, or for whatever, then we're gonna have to come to grips with it in the first instance.
Otherwise, we're not gonna be able to do it together.
Quadrant.
Quadrant of the monochrome versus traitors.
Quadrant.
So, Parker has his mind.
I think he has, uh, that he'll probably say that he's trying to increase the money supply, and he can't because there isn't enough demand.
And then in the next breath, he'll probably say that interest rates are getting down pretty low, and he's hesitant to create reserves and drive interest rates down more because of the balance of payments.
So we tend to go around in that circle.
I believe, as a technical question, although it's very hard to face our command on these things, but I believe that it is just nonsense to say that they can't create, they certainly can create the reserves and that will produce an increase in the money supply on interest rates.
We have taken the big short-term outflow already.
That has mostly happened, although not completely.
And the interest rates are low only by comparison with where they've been in the last couple of years.
They're not low by a longer historical comparison.
The average borrower is still 7%.
Going up in the air like we'd like to see it, or as I would like to see it, by the way, McCracken.
I turn around if I may ask, before we get there, did you have a hot with you and McCracken at the top of the economy?
We had a regular meeting against David.
There's three of us with Peterson, and we'll bring Peterson in as Mr. Kamara.
Well, I want you to put, I want Connery, you know, to take a little time.
You can't bring him straight with Arthur too fast.
But he'll, then you'll have another voice.
He could sing it all the same way, if you call him.
But he gets, with all the hard work, he can look Arthur in the eye and say, Arthur, are you going to listen to that?
Conner will.
He is...
worried about the balance of payments.
I think we, this is one of the subjects that Peterson's group should work on is to let us get ourselves a good perspective on this product.
A fellow over at the American Enterprise Institute, Dr. Peter Hobbler, who's a famous internet analyst, put out a very good statement on this just last week, and I think we might make some use of that too.
I also raised the question of what do you want us to say on that?
What do you want me to say on that?
I don't know.
We're still waiting for Hutch.
We are keeping our options open.
We're waiting to come more and more to the view and from what I'm hearing that
Uh, because the, uh, I ran into this, I had an injury, and you know, he was back, and I thought, well, I think John felt the same way I did.
And, uh, I just wondered if it doesn't create a great, huge, epitomically freeing place.
And then he just continued to walk.
Well, another possible thing that might happen is if you have this freeze, and then the diaper people look,
have the board and so forth.
And then you say the freeze gets continued, or we have to do something along those lines.
And then the locals start striking in spite of the freeze.
And then the labor people say, well, it's the president's problem now.
Well, I think we can come back to the David's statement possibility, and I think you're in a much better posture to do something about that.
What I can say in the statement is, as a matter of fact, is that certainly we laid the groundwork by pointing out that the industry, as I said, is a second industry, but not the one.
And second, at the close, I don't know if I said $14 million in contracts in this industry.
Now with that in mind, I agree with you on things the same.
I just want you to understand.
And I understand.
George, you heard me, Dad.
I know how things are going to be.
I think those constructions, those trains, those guys, I'm going to force them in now.
It's the fact that there's too much time.
We weren't going to go out, you know, a few days ago.
They're down, they're down, they're returning, they're going to eventually.
But the data space is a huge temple to an awful lot of people.
Now, I know the argument is that I understand folks like Beckel and the rest don't want data space.
That's correct.
But Beckel, here's Beckel's problem.
He operates a sector of the industry that's completely immunized.
And he is...
He is at the mercy of the building trade union.
So whether he would like the Davis-Bacon Act repealed or not, he will not utter a word about it.
He doesn't want to be anywhere near the Senate.
He has a government contract.
Alright, we have a, he has accepted the productivity commission that's been made with Yeah We have another problem, of course, the argument by, by, and I try to understand, not only Hodgson, but Colson, working with our previous guys to find out, okay, these guys Well, we had a pretty good fight going on in Philadelphia, so I had a match where we got through
They had more respect for us than when we started.
They went to Hudson.
There was a big dispute about the accrediting of rules.
I see that they have.
And when I was secretary, we were about to put out a change, and it happened, and it wasn't possible to do it before I left the job.
So Jim has been nursing that along ever since.
And when this wage-price business came up, the construction union people went to him and they said, look, you put aside these predatory changes so we can continue our discriminatory policies, in effect.
And, uh, if you want us to play ball out of this.
And Jim to his credit said that I won't make that kind of appeal that you can't even put them out.
And that may be part of the problem here.
But they have this coming to them.
Yeah.
And there is a number of signs over about our old friends and the way we moved.
If we had friends.
Well, there they, the...
Just what is going on, I don't know.
But they're playing a very tricky game here.
Humphrey goes down and he puts out these statements.
He puts out public statements on the freeze and so on.
Whether they're going to play a string game with us or not, I think is a real question.
I don't see why.
Well, yeah, well, we played a great game with them, all right, but I don't think, it seems to me, there's no reason to get you in a position where you get mass-tracked on.
Does that haircut matter?
My daughter says, when it gets done, Frankie, what's right?
Well, I'll pay the same price.
I know.
But I don't think we sit in a political
Yes, it'll have a, I think, a very healthy effect over a long period of time.
It's all right.
It's a benefit to legislation.
It's a benefit to legislation.
I think that's the thing.
I think it's, I don't know how hard I think it's going to be.
But the point is that I think that we can do this again.
Yeah.
If they take us through around here, they don't come up with them.
We pray.
And they say, well, we withdraw from the Productivity Council.
And they might withdraw.
Well, if they do that, so they withdraw.
We go ahead and work with them.
Well, labor is giving itself a position that does that with other statements it makes of being the bastion of the status quo.
There again, so attention.
Well, yeah, when I saw your status on gravity and all that sort of thing, my God, I mean, I, I think it's a very good line, John.
I picked it up out of your, say, your advice on the president.
You know, so I said, the establishment is all against me.
That's the way to push it.
People don't want to be stopped.
You ready?
Sure.
Sure.
I really don't get it.
Most people just don't like it.
It's very respectful.
I'll tell you, there's one thing that really takes me off the course in this thing.
I don't feel they've mistaken or anything else in the construction industry.
It's very difficult for the average citizen to do what we do, to buy groceries, to understand why an increase in wages in the construction industry affects his cost of living.
He's not buying a house this week.
He hasn't bought a house for a long time.
He's not planning to do it.
Why don't we put it in terms of this?
We've got one way that we can put it.
You can't say it's this.
We're talking about a $14 billion worth of government contracts.
Why?
Yeah.
My God, I mean, it's a very good line, John.
I picked it up out of your advice and question.
Notice I said, the establishment's all against change.
I said, labor's against change, agriculture's against change, business is against change.
That's the way to cook it.
People love this job.
Do you agree?
Sure.
Sure.
I really don't get it.
Most people just don't like it.
They understand it.
It's very disrespectful.
I'll tell you, there is one thing that I wouldn't take your hands off.
It's important in this thing.
We don't take a statement or anything else in the construction industry.
It's very difficult for the animals to do what we do.
Buy the groceries.
by an increase of wages in the construction industry.
He's not buying a house this week.
He hasn't bought a house for a long time.
We've got one way that we can put it.
We're talking about $14 billion worth of government contracts.
74 to 76 billion dollars a year.
Why?
Because of the internet.
Now, what about the third thing?
You're taking it low there.
It's not ours.
Yeah, and you're writing it down.
You're writing it down.
You're writing it down.
You're writing it down.
You're writing it down.
You're writing it down.
construction, you know.
But let's be truly true, it's just horrible.
The time it would cost John.
Ask him.
Ask him.
We'll have him come see me and find out.
We have $14 billion worth of construction money going out.
And we want to see it go for additional jobs.
I'm not sure how to say it one way or the other, but it's for the traffic.
They're not making a sound out of it.
I'm just thinking it's an RV that has a high, you know, that's too rigid, or whatever you want to call it.
And this is with regard to CDI.
What are the calls with that NLS?
They put it out of the DLS.
We say that we have a call from a crime unit.
Or, uh, the last time he was messing around, so the apostate came over on the unemployment figures, uh, making a statement here to, uh, Strasburg, well, let's have some fighting.
Let's get a camp hospital appointed here.
Here's what I'd like to have done.
I don't want it done the normal way.
I, I would like to have it done, if I may say, on this one.
Sort of to walk out and say, John,
Speaking to the tubes to get any facts about this piece on stage one, it is the lowest, it is the lowest in three years.
Say that one.
And second, it is food prices have not risen for the last 12 months.
This is encouraging the inquiry that we have turned.
that drives the cost of living is being checked and that our policies are working.
Just say those three things, Karen, if you want.
I'll say it on TV.
I don't mind.
I mean, put my subpoena back on there.
If a damn thing goes up, then let it go up.
If you don't even have any advantage in there, you don't want to show the guy that you're fighting.
And I can say that in three minutes.
And I'm actually not going to say that in 30 seconds on TV.
I'm going to say it for a time.
They're going to have to say it later.
The next one, when it goes out of this thing, the person will make a comment.
No, he's going for it.
You don't need to make a comment.
You just take the announcement and say, George, let's take it and answer your questions.
Oh, I go out there and do it.
A lot of men should ask the question.
Just take the thing and just say it.
Say goodbye.
It's not easy.
Yeah.
And I have questions over here at all.
So, I thought that you could ever understand it because, Michael, I've been
Well, there's that, and we do have that.
That's it, right?
That's the number one thing.
I'm not sure, but I think we all agree at this point that this is the lowest, when a one-tenth of one percent, that is the lowest in three years.
I think that should be said.
Yeah, I think you're right.
All right, then we're going to go back to Genesis, and we've got to get practice.
Now, the closer the, the, we have some,
And while we did what he was saying, he said there's a lot of recurrent news.
And I thought, let's put it this way, he was saying, we have a much greater frequency than what he said.
That's accurate.
That is the way to solve it.
It's accurate.
We have, I think he just ought to go out and say that we have some recurring figures.
I mean, I have some recurring figures in regard to the consumer price intentions.
One, it's going down.
Two, it's going down.
One, it's the lowest increase in three years.
Two, food prices have been at the grocery store, and then, don't you call it the grocery store, have not gone up three years.
It's none of this is an indication that in spite of the fact we will have, and as we always have, if she goes with these figures, the trend is downward.
We are, our policies curbing the rise in the cost of living are working.
Put those three things up, haul them, get this over to, get this to that, get it to TAPR for example,
I've got a towering cloud signal.
Maybe put in some goddamn cute words here.
Just like that.
One, two, three.
They'll be saying, get it down to the hill.
Get it over.
So a few clouds down there will say, close.
Send it around.
Here's one of the places where it's greater.
Somebody uses a little model and flashes it around to the hill.
Some of the things you can use in your speeches, boys.
Some of our calls aren't that great.
I don't think about that.
that the thank yous are going to happen next month.
This is a technological situation.
If we haven't any confidence at all in what we've been doing, then we've got to arrive at the area that it's in business.
And that also helps.
It helps people in terms of buying things.
We talk about why don't people buy things?
They think prices are too high.
They're going up.
They think they're being checked.
See, I just talked to you earlier.
If you've got a high-end black box, if you don't do it enough, well, why do you think I should do it?
I thought this got damaged.
You've got to throw another gun on it.
I guess not.
No.
It's something that's true.
I don't think it's, uh...
I heard his info, and I agree.
But I don't think I've ever seen anything like that in my entire life.
Ooh, I've seen it over at the Woodrow Austin Express.
This is the old fire pit.
You have a minute for two at the fire pit.
Oh, they won't believe the things that are on there.
Why can't you?
Why can't you?
All we can do is just say, well, I'm going to go through to the Senate.
I know what the CGI is going to be tomorrow.
I can't tell you if it's the military.
You'll get the lead on that.
I could have the economic advisors.
There's a good figure of the CGI going on tomorrow.
I'm going to just drop it on there.
What's the matter with that?
You got a problem?
What's the problem?
No, the problem is that now they work on the canyons and stuff.
All right, then they move up.
Then they move up and start leading to the end of the unit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, we won't do that.
No, no, no.
Let me say this.
Well, there's a general feeling that our press groups are going to use the couch a little bit more often.
And that kind of leads to some answers for the rest of the thing.
Maybe I can't do it.
But can somebody else say it or something?
don't give it up there's encouraging encouraging that you have a cpi coming up there's that twist
The main thing is, please, this is how you get all of our three points.
For God's sake, I don't want to get with the Washington Star tomorrow and see it all twisted around so that you can hardly recognize it.
I'm going to do just three.
That's all.
One, two, three, four.
Don't do too much.
Most people are going to have a green monitor.
They're just going to put it out at least three.
One, two, three.
That's what we were going to try something different.
Well, it was this idea of just laying the release on the table and walking away.
Why not?
I think these guys are kind of horrible guys.
They're just not going to sell these ones.
Yeah.
Well, I have tried to work it with more and more power.
That's the point.
I have to re-organize these points.
I said, you've got some good news here.
And I'll tell you, it wouldn't do the BLS any harm.
I said, I'm not white-out, but you've managed to run it out that way.
I don't think you've got that message, but I'll hear you when you go through.
How did I get here?
This is a surprise, but also a really good one.
You're not reaching your comfort zone.
Can we ask you to co-sponsor?
I wonder if you could give me another hand if you come down.
Well, as you know, I can't hurt you because you're over there doing him a favor right now.
You've got to praise him because, you know, he's very...
If you were to just take him aside as a friend and say, Hey, Cuber, I want to ask you to do something.
I know you're forward-riding me, Terry.
I want you to be a close sponsor.
I don't see how you can say that.
I know both.
So you're going to have to do that again, don't you?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
...the decision on the NASA administrator.
Today, we're going to have to say that we can't expect this.
Who is?
Now, who?
Jeff Fletcher.
Who is he?
Well, he's been president of the University of Utah.
He was before NASA, uh, with Vice President, Aerojet General.
Before that, he founded the Space Electronics Corporation, which he sold to Aerojet General, and took over NASA.
Very highly regarded, because if you wanted to be level hockey as fast, he has emerged as the biggest across the board.
He's the first player that I've ever met.
And he's a part of our team.
He's a part of our team.
He's a part of our team.
He's a part of our team.
He's a part of our team.
He's our Aero Jet General and he's great.
He is the Aero Jet General.
He's been at the University of San Diego and he's the top candidate.
He served for NASA.
Okay, everybody, let's have a talk, and I'll wait for you tomorrow.
Now, if you want to have anybody to, I don't know, we've been trying to program it off, as you are, but on this first meeting, and I think you should, this is going to be the first meeting in a program, and as you say, I finally have been secretary, and I think you might have some issues.
What we ought to do, though, is, if I do get any comments, we might probably go a little too fast.
And, uh, if you and I have a chat, it's not going to be one of you, but I want to send it back to you.
But I feel very sorry for all of you on both of your streets.
I, I think it's the only thing that's going to save us.
We always hear that it's going to break the county.
It never has, and it is going to now.
So the county has to do it.
The county has always had to be prepared.
So our economy grows.
We're as much as a whole.
The county economy is awesome.
And all of a sudden, I'm in New York, and we go over and just, just, just go out of our minds.
You know, it's a central backer, New York, and people just go back to us and run us down.
I think we're going to have to try to return to that.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Bye.
We've had a real breakdown in the cities, counties, and states coming back.
But then, the rest of the party is scared.
Oh, who's he?
Who's doing it?
Well, it's Roy and the girls.
Roy gets up now.
Roy gets up now.
Roy gets up now.
Roy gets up now.
Roy gets up now.
Roy gets up now.
Roy gets up now.
Roy gets up now.
I'm all for it.
I'm for it.
I don't know.
And so, you know, George, the model here is this, this guy on his bed, and that is his mother's home.
They proved it, Johnny, that he could get in there and keep a van wrapped in coal.
You know, I had no idea who you were here to talk to when you were on there.
You are here now.
But then we find out that the whole, that he loved that episode of The Critics.
Because all the time I was studying, he was looking out at us, and I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Well, we're going to take a lot of this together this week.
We're trying to, we're trying to, we're trying to, we're trying to, we're trying to, we're trying to, we're trying to,
I don't have a story, but I guess so, and I've heard it, and I've heard this, and I've heard it, and I've heard it, and I've heard it, and I've heard it, and I've heard it, and I've heard it, and I've heard it,
I got a 40,000% and I said, why don't you call and give me your two biggest states, cities, and counties to get involved.
Because I don't know if somebody needs to ask me.
Yeah, well, see, now, I don't know.
As I'm hearing this, he's a friend of mine.
He's been in the county, in the county, in L.A. County.
And he dwarves the rest.
And I think there's none of this kind of thing.
Check the record.
He keeps his friends' voices on for it already.
But we got him all the way from Stokes to Luther.
And we get the whole second.
But he's one of the guys, Jeffy.
And he can let the list go.
And he's doing it.
He's doing it.
Well, he's getting those problems at the yard.
See, he's trying to get the yard congressional delegation to jump together.
He's working hard on that.
And he's also working on the citizen organization.
We're going to launch the first bipartisan citizen organization next week.
I'm going to put my name on that.
You know what I'm trying to do?
I'm trying to keep it strictly away from the administration.
Good morning, everybody.
Well, I know this is a big thing, and this thing on the hill,
Let's get some of our people to say something.
Get somebody to relax.
Peter's great.
He's great.
And, uh, Barbara Connell, John Anderson, and the house are, are, are, flying away.
We're getting a good floor action.
And it's gonna get a reasonable amount of copy-up.
But things like, uh, listing, unions, things of this kind, aren't making it as a target.
We don't have any of those, and they're very tough for us as a country.
What in the devil is listing, you guys support?
I don't think we have enough.
That's just because we're a poor church.
He's trying to figure out his own position on it.
What's he want?
You know, he could give us more money.
He wants $10,000, but he also wants more money to have our own programs, and he says, you know, we don't have our own business, but he's using all the technical stuff, since we don't have our own, you know.
Well, one of the things that I was hearing something, he said, is that the last, the last that he gave us was, well, he's going to have our own programs, and see the president's place, and he'll see that he's trying to change the cities.
And the city's not standing toward this whole thing.
And I'm sure they're talking about $5,000 for general revenue sharing, but they're taking $5,000 off the other end.
And their heart's not in this thing.
They're really not important to someone.
But I'm not sure.
No.
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
to find out if you can prove some way to end this.
Compared with the president, he's not a disorder in New York City anymore.
Well, we went out on a quest to do that.
We've got to settle our distribution for us.
And we're working on that as fast as we can go.
Rodney is definitely going to send his department to me all the time.
I'm working out their distribution.
Let's get Rodney in here.
He's reading a number of headlines this morning.
And he's gone there in no form that's comfortable with that.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's right.
Well, we're going to break this down.
The other thing, of course, is that if you're going to speak for these brackets, I mean, here is a double-handed version.
If you get a straight, you get a right hand.
And then Tom comes off like a hand-trump.
There's all that.
And then that, uh, Governor Yardley, he's going to talk about Governor Yardley.
He's going to talk about him all day.
By the time he gets through, he spots that the guy turns to the back guys.
Because in life itself, it's a tool you already have to remember to use.
And it's better to put it back up there in black, son.
Now, he's out with nobody I can inquire about.
There's some truth.
Yes, since he realized he's got it.
He hasn't been along, and I've talked to him, and I've told him that he's got it.
He's my mom.
He's got it.
He said it just works because he's got it.
He'll do that.
What does it mean?
That he has it.
Yes, that's right.
That's right.
That's right.