Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 473 › Conversation 473-016

Nixon, Fauntroy & MacGregor on Oval Office and Social visit

Thursday, March 25, 1971 · 4:56 PM–5:00 PM ET · Oval Office · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Fauntroy, Walter E.; Fauntroy, Dorothy (Simms); Fauntroy, Marvin K.; MacGregor, Clark; Brown, Robert J.Conversation473-016 on Tape 473 (tape position 04:51:41–04:57:26)StartThursday, March 25, 1971 at 4:56 PMEndThursday, March 25, 1971 at 5:00 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 473-016 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417176309 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon hosted Reverend Walter E. Fauntroy and his family, accompanied by Clark MacGregor and Robert J. Brown, for a brief social meeting in the Oval Office. The encounter centered on pleasantries, a photo session, and the exchange of presidential gifts, including cufflinks and golf balls. The President also acknowledged Fauntroy’s recent political success and academic achievements during the short, informal engagement.

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NARA Description

On March 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Walter E. Fauntroy, Dorothy (Simms) Fauntroy, Marvin K. Fauntroy, Clark MacGregor, and Robert J. Brown met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:56 pm and 5:00 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 473-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 473-16

Date: March 25, 1971
Time: Unknown between 4:56 pm and 5:00 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Reverend Walter E. and Dorothy (Simms) Fauntroy, Marvin K.
Fauntroy, Clark MacGregor, and Robert J. Brown

     Greetings

     Photo session
          -Arrangements

     President’s daughters

     W. E. Fauntroy’s electoral victory

     President’s autograph for M. K. Fauntroy

     Gifts
             -Cufflinks
             -Golf balls

     President’s schedule

     W. E. Fauntroy
          -Doctorate

     Presidential golf balls

The President, et al. left at 5:00 pm

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Well, here are the winners.
How are you?
I'm glad to see you.
I see your button there.
I don't know what he was for.
How are you?
I'm glad to see you.
We'll get in our white-outs and talk.
We'll come on over here.
Stand right up here by the newsstands in front.
I'm glad to see you.
Thank you very good.
So yours are my dog.
Well, I must say, it was one of the lightest ones.
Yes, it was.
I think you got 57% of the vote.
Yeah, 59.
59?
Yeah.
Yeah, you once got 59, but not recently.
No, I didn't.
No, I didn't, but it was quite a while, I guess.
What did you guys post there?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, would you like to go on the red button?
Oh, sure.
Yeah, I figured I'd have to do that.
Right in there.
Right in there.
That's Marge.
Your name is Marge?
Yes, that's right.
I'm a Christian, but I'm out of that.
Yeah, you'll run into that.
I always wanted a congressman.
Don't.
You never brought your sisters, did you?
From U.S.?
Well, hey, that makes you very special.
There's the back, you see that?
I'm going to give you a couple of these.
You've got a presidential cup, an extravaganza light.
You've got a presidential seal.
I don't think there's a part that says Paul.
He's a golfer, is he?
Paul, is it Paul?
Yeah, that's right, Paul.
You want to call Paul?
He's a golfer.
Good.
He's a golfer.
He's a golfer.
Now we've got to get into the meeting, so I'm just going to order in back here.
I call backwards.
You've got one of those PhD.
I'm going to be watching this person down in my pocket, too.
All right.
That is a sealed person on a signature, so that's real special.
Go on, go on.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
I can listen inside as soon as you're all lined up.
Thank you so much.

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  • 473-014 4:23 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:23 pm and 4:40 pm.
  • 473-015 4:23 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Robert H. Finch, Clark MacGregor, White House operator, Stephen B. Bull, and William M. Allen met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:23 pm and 4:56 pm.
  • 051-012 5:00 PM · 1 hr 16 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the Congressional Black Caucus, including Charles C. Diggs, Jr., August F. Hawkins, William L. Clay, George W. Collins, John Conyers, Jr., Ronald V. Dellums, Walter E. Fauntroy, Ralph Metcalfe, Parren J. Mitchell, Robert N. C. Nix, Charles B. Rangel, Louis Stokes, and Shirley Chisholm, as well as staff members Clark MacGregor, Robert H. Finch, George P. Shultz, George W. Romney, Robert J. Brown, and Leonard Garment and press photographers, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 5:00 pm to 6:30 pm.
  • 473-017 5:00 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 5:00 pm on March 25, 1971 and 9:40 am on March 26, 1971.
  • 473-018 5:00 PM · 21 sec — Unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 5:00 pm on March 25, 1971 and 9:40 am on March 26, 1971.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 473-016, March 25, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417176309). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/473-016 (accessed November 2, 2026).