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Nixon & Bull on White House scheduling and John L. McClellan

Monday, April 19, 1971 · 3:49 PM–3:52 PM ET · Oval Office · 33 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation482-020 on Tape 482 (tape position 03:04:05–03:04:19)StartMonday, April 19, 1971 at 3:49 PMEndMonday, April 19, 1971 at 3:52 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 482-020 ↗

President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to review administrative logistics regarding upcoming appointments. The discussion focused on coordinating the President's schedule, specifically regarding a meeting with Senator John L. McClellan and staff members Kenneth E. BeLieu and Clark MacGregor. The brief exchange centered on finalizing these arrangements before Bull concluded the meeting.

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On April 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:49 pm and 3:52 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 482-020 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 482-20

Date: April 19, 1971
Time: Unknown between 3:49 pm and 3:52 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     Schedule
          -Meeting with John L. McClellan
               -Kenneth E. BeLieu and Clark MacGregor

Bull left at 3:52 pm.
  • 002-001 3:03 PM · 2 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:03 pm and 3:04 pm.
  • 482-017 3:03 PM · 31 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and George P. Shultz met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:03 pm to 3:34 pm.
  • 002-002 3:04 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Richard G. Kleindienst talked on the telephone from 3:04 pm to 3:09 pm.
  • 482-018 3:34 PM · 29 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:34 pm to 3:35 pm.
  • 482-019 3:35 PM · 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Robert A. Taft, Jr., John E. Nidecker, Mrs. Preston Davie, Jeremiah Milbank, Jr., Ross Reid, Thomas W. Evans, Henry Catto, Mrs. Henry Catto, Adelaide M. Dempsey, Marion J. Epley, III, Robert L. Garner, Edward J. Gerrity, Jr., E. Frederic Morrow, Louis L. Rader, Richard M. Scaife, George M. Steinbrenner, III, Lewis L. Strauss, Arthur E. Summerfield, W. Allen Wallis, David K. ("Pat") Wilson, Marilyn Chelstrom, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:35 pm to 3:47 pm.
  • 482-021 3:52 PM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:52 pm to 4:05 pm.
  • 482-022 4:07 PM · 46 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John L. McClellan, Clark MacGregor, Kenneth E. BeLieu, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:07 pm to 4:53 pm.
  • 482-023 4:54 PM · 1 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at 4:54 pm.

Conversation 482-020, April 19, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/482-020 (accessed October 3, 2026).