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Nixon & Bull on Photography and Travel planning

Thursday, January 27, 1972 · 2:20 PM–2:23 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation658-019 on Tape 658 (tape position 04:17:43–04:19:20)StartThursday, January 27, 1972 at 2:20 PMEndThursday, January 27, 1972 at 2:23 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 658-019 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate logistics for upcoming presidential activities, including the scheduling of photography sessions. They discussed the necessity of managing the President's itinerary to prevent exhaustion, referencing past experiences where fatigue impacted staff performance. This discussion served to refine the planning for upcoming travel and high-profile public appearances.

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4:17:50leaders, practice, theater, have a sense of which to be the center of the team.
4:17:57And then, just to sit down and go over everything that we plan to talk about.
4:18:01We don't mean as truly as we can.
4:18:03And then, of course, when we come back, we'll repeat.
4:18:06So, is that something that I'd like to do in the competition?
4:18:11Yeah.
4:18:12Well, the reason I advance, we tend to advance parties over very interesting things.
4:18:18And 24 people would win.
4:18:21It would have been awful.
4:18:2218 got sick.
4:18:23Now they were sick from fatigue and hours and so forth, but they all recommended to be sure it was better.
4:18:31In other words, not just go all out.
4:18:34They said you've got to be there to change the restrictions and talk to your terminal owner.
4:18:39That made it big.
4:18:40They go on and rush kind of that way.
4:18:44So they thought, I better go to Hawaii first.
4:18:47I'm going to go there.
4:18:47So I'm on a whole day and a night.
4:18:50Then I go on a whole day and a night.
4:18:54And then fly over to Beijing the next day.
4:18:57Hopefully in Greece.
4:18:58Because I, well, the talks go on for four days.
4:19:03So that's the real thing.
4:19:04Now the other thing I want you to know, too, is that

NARA Description

On January 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 2:23 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 658-019 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 658-19

Date: January 27, 1972
Time: Unknown between 2:20 pm and 2:23 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President’s schedule
          -Photograph opportunities
               -Rate
               -Previous Quadriad photograph
                      -Herbert Stein
                      -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
               -Bull’s responsibility

Bull left at an unknown time before 2:23 pm.

Also recorded on January 27, 1972

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  • 019-136 2:20 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 2:20 pm.
  • 019-137 2:20 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 2:23 pm.
  • 658-017 2:20 PM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 2:20 pm.
  • 658-018 2:20 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 2:23 pm.
  • 019-138 2:23 PM · 56 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Jerry V. Wilson talked on the telephone from 2:23 pm to 2:24 pm.
  • 658-020 2:23 PM · 55 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Jerry V. Wilson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:23 pm to 2:24 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 658-019, January 27, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/658-019 (accessed October 12, 2026).