Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 658 › Conversation 658-020

Nixon & Wilson on Law enforcement and Administrative coordination

Thursday, January 27, 1972 · 2:23 PM–2:24 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Wilson, Jerry V.Conversation658-020 on Tape 658 (tape position 04:19:20–04:20:15)StartThursday, January 27, 1972 at 2:23 PMEndThursday, January 27, 1972 at 2:24 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 658-020 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Metropolitan Police Chief Jerry V. Wilson briefly discussed the logistics and feasibility of facilitating personal meetings regarding ongoing law enforcement or administrative matters. The two agreed to initiate these discussions, with Wilson expressing confidence that the involved parties would be receptive to the proposed direct approach. The conversation concluded with a plan to proceed with coordinating these interactions.

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4:19:12That I'm willing to take up directly with them, because I think we've talked about before, that I think that whenever your state will permit that I can be in my case, I would say that we ought to talk personally, and I'm going to suggest that.
4:19:32You would like to go, they have a tape numbers, and I'm going to ask them about that now, and put them in the direction.
4:19:42We think they will be very, very receptive to the idea.
4:19:46So, we'll throw that into their projection.
4:19:50Yeah, because I think you always want to go to the side of it.

NARA Description

On January 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Jerry V. Wilson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:23 pm to 2:24 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 658-020 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 658-20

Date: January 27, 1972
Time: 2:23 pm - 2:24 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with Jerry V. Wilson.

[See Conversation No. 19-138]

Also recorded on January 27, 1972

  • 019-136 2:20 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 2:20 pm.
  • 019-137 2:20 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 2:23 pm.
  • 658-017 2:20 PM · 46 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 2:20 pm.
  • 658-018 2:20 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 2:23 pm.
  • 658-019 2:20 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 2:23 pm.
  • 019-138 2:23 PM · 56 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Jerry V. Wilson talked on the telephone from 2:23 pm to 2:24 pm.
  • 019-139 2:24 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:24 pm and 2:32 pm.
  • 658-021 2:24 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:24 pm and 2:32 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 658-020, January 27, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/658-020 (accessed October 12, 2026).