Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 697 › Conversation 697-021

Nixon, Tiller & Shultz on Relief coordination and Government service

Thursday, March 30, 1972 · 12:26 PM–12:30 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Tiller, Carl W.; Shultz, George P.; White House photographerConversation697-021 on Tape 697 (tape position 02:53:59–02:57:31)StartThursday, March 30, 1972 at 12:26 PMEndThursday, March 30, 1972 at 12:30 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 697-021 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Carl W. Tiller and George P. Shultz, along with a photographer, for a brief introductory and ceremonial session. The discussion touched upon Tiller's professional background and his transition into future relief coordination work following his government service. The meeting concluded with an exchange of gifts and brief pleasantries regarding Tiller's career.

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2:53:58He was there, I think, the whole month.
2:54:02Thank you very much.
2:54:05Have you seen who?
2:54:08Have you seen Block?
2:54:10I'm not sure I've met Block two weeks ago.
2:54:14He's had his blood and blood.
2:54:17He was struggling.
2:54:18He was super-large.
2:54:20He hadn't gotten any after that.
2:54:24You've got a good life, don't you?
2:54:26Remember when you had a sailboat and ran up to the end of the room and closed the yard and threw all your garbage down?
2:54:32Yeah, I remember.
2:54:33I remember when we broke down and got her back the one time I owed her until I broke down and got her back from Quantico.
2:54:39I remember.
2:54:40The way we fooled her and the ultimate heat.
2:54:43I remember that.
2:54:45Well, good luck.
2:54:48Thank you very much.
2:54:49But if you want to come on the 15th, let us know soon.
2:55:02Put it down.
2:55:03We don't decide.
2:55:04I mean, it's as though that you couldn't, nothing could have happened before.
2:55:09I understand.
2:55:11But, uh, the seat won't get any crew.
2:55:12We're not going to send anybody in.
2:55:14I know a lot of them.
2:55:17They don't manage.
2:55:19They don't have an actual command.
2:55:24I don't want to take the part of people that are on here.
2:55:30I might change what happens in life.
2:55:33Okay, God, thank you.
2:55:35This next one needs nothing.
2:56:18That's right.
2:56:46That's all I hear.
2:56:47We've been up to a number of troops in the United States.
2:56:49They're one of our 71 bodies out there, 91 bodies, yeah, 91.
2:56:52That's all right.
2:56:53I heard you had a government secretary.
2:56:58He was a real associate secretary.
2:57:00Is he a secretary?
2:57:01Yes, I am.
2:57:02Now, is that a working position?
2:57:04No, it's a full-time working position.
2:57:06Is that right?
2:57:08I'm very lucky to get you.
2:57:09Well, thank you.
2:57:10I'll be largely engaged in relief work next year.
2:57:12That's great.
2:57:14You know what I mean, sir?
2:57:16That's great.
2:57:16Thank you.
2:57:17Because you have, after every work in this government, why, even the back is served.

NARA Description

On March 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Carl W. Tiller, George P. Shultz, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:26 pm to 12:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 697-021 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 697-21

Date: March 30, 1972
Time: 12:26 pm - 12:30 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Carl W. Tiller and George P. Shultz; the White House photographer was
present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Greetings

     Tiller
              -Departure

     Baptist World Alliance
          -Philadelphia
                -Southern Baptists
          -[Photograph session]
          -Tiller's position
                -Relief coordination

     Gifts
              -Cufflinks
              -Bible

     Shultz

             -Tiller’s work

Tiller et al. left.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 697-021, March 30, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/697-021 (accessed October 12, 2026).