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Nixon & Bull on Congress

Thursday, March 30, 1972 · 12:25 PM–12:26 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation697-020 on Tape 697 (tape position 02:53:31–02:53:59)StartThursday, March 30, 1972 at 12:25 PMEndThursday, March 30, 1972 at 12:26 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 697-020 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly met in the Oval Office to coordinate the President's upcoming schedule. The discussion focused on logistical arrangements for a meeting involving retiring members of Congress. No major policy decisions were reached, as the conversation served primarily as a brief administrative update regarding the President's calendar.

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2:53:32Probably after they get back from retirement.
2:53:35Retiring members of Congress.
2:53:37We're right, Jesse, but come here, come to there.
2:53:40You wouldn't mind trying to win a couple of books, right?
2:53:45They covered all of them.
2:53:46In other words, they can grow up to a certain age.
2:53:50You know what I'm saying?

On March 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:25 pm to 12:26 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 697-020 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 697-20

Date: March 30, 1972
Time: 12:25 pm - 12:26 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
          -Forthcoming meeting
               -Time

Bull left at 12:30 pm.
  • 697-016 12:15 PM · 40 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:15 pm.
  • 697-017 12:15 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, James E. Stewart, Clark MacGregor, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:15 pm to 12:20 pm.
  • 697-018 12:20 PM · 30 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:20 pm to 12:21 pm.
  • 697-019 12:21 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Donald L. Jackson, Peter M. Flanigan, Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:21 pm to 12:25 pm.
  • 697-021 12:26 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Carl W. Tiller, George P. Shultz, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:26 pm to 12:30 pm.
  • 697-022 12:30 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:30 pm to 12:31 pm.
  • 697-023 12:31 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Mike Finamore, Ann Landers, A. Hamblin Letton, Mrs. A. Hamblin Letton, Charles R. Ebersol, Mrs. Charles R. Ebersol, Lane W. Adams, Mrs. Lane W. Adams, Irving I. Rimer, Alan Davis, John Finamore, Mrs. John Finamore, Deborah Finamore, Alice Letton, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., James H. Cavanaugh, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:31 pm to 12:39 pm.
  • 697-024 12:39 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:39 pm and 12:45 pm.

Conversation 697-020, March 30, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/697-020 (accessed October 12, 2026).