Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 708 › Conversation 708-004

Nixon & Bull on John W. Dean III and Frank DeMarco, Jr.

Thursday, April 13, 1972 · 4:31 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation708-004 on Tape 708 (tape position 00:25:03–00:25:23)StartThursday, April 13, 1972 at 4:31 PMEndThursday, April 13, 1972 at 4:31 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 708-004 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate administrative details regarding his upcoming schedule and the handling of a specific briefcase. The discussion focused on finalizing arrangements for a scheduled meeting involving Frank DeMarco, Jr. and John W. Dean III. No major policy decisions were reached, as the brief interaction served primarily to manage the President's immediate agenda and logistical tasking.

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25:06I wanted to, just before I leave, I want to clear one other thing of mine this evening, because it's over.

NARA Description

On April 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 4:31 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 708-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 708-4

Date: April 13, 1972
Time: 4:31 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President's schedule
            -Meeting with Frank DeMarco, Jr. and John W. Dean III
                  -Purpose

       Briefcase

Bull left at 4:31 pm.

Also recorded on April 13, 1972

708-003 4:28 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen Hess, Elena (Shayne) Hess, Charles P. Hess, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:28 pm to 4:31 pm.
708-005 4:31 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at 4:31 pm.
708-006 4:31 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Frank DeMarco, Jr., and John W. Dean, III met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:31 pm to 4:34 pm.
708-007 4:34 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:34 pm and 4:37 pm.
708-008 4:34 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:34 pm and 4:37 pm.
708-009 4:37 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Henry A. Kissinger, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:37 pm to 4:46 pm.
022-123 4:38 PM · 9 sec — Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:38 pm and 4:46 pm.
022-124 4:38 PM · 11 sec — Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:38 pm and 4:46 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 708-004, April 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/708-004 (accessed October 1, 2026).