Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 758 › Conversation 758-013

Nixon & Bull on Richard Carpenter and Karen Carpenter

Tuesday, August 1, 1972 · 12:14 PM–12:15 PM ET · Oval Office · 56 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation758-013 on Tape 758StartTuesday, August 1, 1972 at 12:14 PMEndTuesday, August 1, 1972 at 12:15 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 758-013 ↗

President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate a brief visit and photo opportunity with musical duo Richard and Karen Carpenter. The discussion focused on logistical arrangements, including the involvement of their manager, Sherwin Bash, and the presentation of gifts. The President specifically requested that Karen Carpenter be brought in for the engagement.

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I forgot about that.
We'll be also asking them to assist us.
Yes, sir.
I was going to introduce the manager to you.
He's the one who's going to be...
They have a... Why do you have...
I think we'll have to get the girl up.
All right.

On August 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:14 pm and 12:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 758-013 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 758-13

Date: August 1, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:14 pm and 12:15 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

             The President's schedule
                 -Richard and Karen Carpenter
                     -Press photograph
                     -Manager [Sherwin Bash]
                     -Gifts

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:15 pm.
  • 758-011 10:33 AM · 34 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, White House operator, Charles W. Colson, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:33 am to 11:50 am.
  • 028-028 10:34 AM · 14 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:34 am and 11:03 am.
  • 028-029 11:03 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:03 am and 2:22 pm.
  • 028-058 11:03 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:03 am and 2:22 pm.
  • 758-012 11:51 AM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Samuel D. Winer, Andre LeTendre, William F. Rhatican, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:51 am to 12:14 pm.
  • 758-014 12:16 PM · 8 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Richard Carpenter, Karen Carpenter, Sherwin Bash, Paul Block, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., James H. Cavanaugh, the White House photographer, and members of the press met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:16 pm to 12:24 pm.
  • 758-015 12:24 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:24 pm and 12:25 pm.
  • 758-024 12:25 PM · 28 sec — United States Secret Service agents and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:25 pm and 4:53 pm.

Conversation 758-013, August 1, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/758-013 (accessed October 1, 2026).