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Nixon & Bull on Marion Scully and White House protocol

Tuesday, September 19, 1972 · 11:18 AM ET · Oval Office · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation783-005 on Tape 783StartTuesday, September 19, 1972 at 11:18 AMEndTuesday, September 19, 1972 at 11:18 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 783-005 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to discuss an upcoming engagement with Marion Scully, a woman associated with the site of the President's 1970 helicopter landing in Timahoe, Ireland. The conversation focused on her current activities in Connecticut and the protocol for acknowledging her visit. Nixon sought to determine the appropriate response or gift, specifically considering a White House pin for the interaction.

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This is that young pilot you're looking at in the sky.

He's going to be pushing into the silence.

I didn't know that.

When you went to, Tim, the helicopter landed on a farm in Ireland.

She's in the United States.

She's been in the United States this summer, and she's been studying some people in Connecticut, and she's been studying Ireland's marks.

I suppose we've got to give her an opinion, an appropriate question.

This is just a point where I say, well, I don't know what I said.

NARA Description

On September 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:18 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 783-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 783-5

Date: September 19, 1972
Time: 11:18 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

             The President's schedule
                 -Forthcoming meeting
                     -Marion Scully
                          -The President’s helicopter landing in Timahoe,
                           Ireland [October 1970]
                     -Connecticut
                     -White House gift
                          -Pin
                     -Wire services

Bull left at 11:18 am.

Also recorded on September 19, 1972

030-001 11:17 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 11:17 am.
783-006 11:18 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:18 am.
783-007 11:19 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Marion Scully, Ronald L. Ziegler, Henry A. Kissinger, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:19 am to 11:25 am.
030-002 11:25 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Prescott S. Bush talked on the telephone from 11:25 am to 11:26 am.
783-008 11:25 AM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:25 am.
783-009 11:25 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Prescott S. Bush met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:25 am to 11:26 am.
783-010 11:40 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:40 am to 11:45 am.
783-011 11:45 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:45 am to 12:12 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 783-005, September 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/783-005 (accessed October 1, 2026).