Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 785 › Conversation 785-003

Nixon, Sturby & Church on Almas Shriners and Charity

Friday, September 22, 1972 · 9:08 AM–9:15 AM ET · Oval Office · 5 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Sturby, Henry B.; Church, Lloyd E.; Jacobs, William P., Jr.; Johnson, Roger E.; Rhatican, William F.; White House photographerConversation785-003 on Tape 785StartFriday, September 22, 1972 at 9:08 AMEndFriday, September 22, 1972 at 9:15 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 785-003 ↗

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President Nixon met with representatives of the Almas Shriners to discuss their charitable hospital network and fundraising activities, including football-related events. During the brief session, which included a photo opportunity, the President presented gifts to the attendees and their wives. The group also touched upon the President’s travel schedule and briefly discussed political support in Indiana.

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I'll tell you what.
It's a great spectacle for a sports day.
I was trying to make sure you all had a good time.
That's a good time.
That's a good time.
That's a good time.
That's a good time.
That's a good time.
That's a good time.
That's a good time.
That's a good time.
That's a good time.
Do you mind if I wear it?
Oh, yeah, sure.
Yeah, sure.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Are you a member of this temple?
What is the one in L.A.?
It's out there on the west side.
Of course, I get a bit closer.
Are you also part of the Lippo game?
Yes.
They did $565,000 a week last year, but how they did it, they had to fish-ride and everything else, and it gets going on and on.
Well, I just wish you the best of luck there.
Now we are only distinguished guests, such as we have our
And the seal is in the black, you know, like this.
You can see the color.
Here it is in the cup.
And for your wife, you see it in the floor.
It goes there.
And one for each of the rest of the two.
All right.
All right.
That's all you get?
I'm not supposed to talk about it.
I'm not supposed to talk about it.
I'm not supposed to talk about it.
I'm not supposed to talk about it.
I'm not supposed to talk about it.
I'm not supposed to talk about it.
I'm not supposed to talk about it.
I'm not supposed to talk about it.
How does anyone elect a senator who's like that?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I always say, oh, right.
Well, I can say it.
You've got to talk about it.
But I can say any state you'd like to elect.
They'll elect these two.
Oh, Bill, right.
Right.
I sure would.
All right.
See you out there.
You've been most kind to us, sir.
Good luck to you.
Bye.
Bye.
Yep.
We love you.
All right.
We're going way down to Rio Grande Valley.
Okay.

NARA Description

On September 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry B. Sturby, Lloyd E. Church, William P. Jacobs, Jr., Roger E. Johnson, William F. Rhatican, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:08 am to 9:15 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 785-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 785-3

Date: September 22, 1972
Time: 9:08 am - 9:15 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry B. Struby, Lloyd E. Church, William P. Jacobs, Jr., Roger E.
Johnson and William F. Rhatican. The White House photographer was present at the beginning
of the meeting.

            Greetings

            The President's schedule
                -Forthcoming trip to Texas

            Shrine of North America
                -Ft. Worth
                -Hospitals
                -East-West football game

            Photograph opportunity

              [Photograph session]
                  -Almas Shriners Temples
                      -Locations of temples
                           -[Washington, DC]
                               -Los Angeles
                      -Fundraising functions
                           -Football
                           -Unknown place
                           -Charlotte, North Carolina
                           -South Carolina
                           -Fish fries
                           -Pro Bowl football

              Presentation of gifts by the President
                  -Cuff links
                       -Presidential seal
                  -Pins for wives

              Shriners' activities
                  -Hospitals
                       -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s possible visit

              Indiana
                  -Birch E. Bayh, Jr. and Vance Hartke
                  -Support for the President
                  -Roger H. Zion
                  -William E. Jenner [?]

              The President’s schedule
                  -The Rio Grande Valley

Struby et al. left at 9:15 am.

Also recorded on September 22, 1972

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  • 030-022 8:15 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:15 pm and 8:22 pm.
  • 785-001 8:54 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:54 am to 8:57 am.
  • 785-002 8:58 AM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Charles W. Colson, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:58 am to 9:08 am.
  • 030-023 9:14 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 9:14 am.
  • 785-004 9:15 AM · 12 sec — unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:15 am and 9:17 am.

Cite this conversation

Conversation 785-003, September 22, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/785-003 (accessed October 12, 2026).