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Conversation 805-015

TapeTape 805StartThursday, October 19, 1972 at 12:07 PMEndThursday, October 19, 1972 at 12:08 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Johnson, James E.Recording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon held a brief personal call with James E. Johnson to express condolences and encouragement regarding a difficult family situation involving Johnson's son. The President offered words of support and discussed Johnson’s upcoming speaking engagement at Wheaton College. Nixon shared a personal anecdote about his own past experience speaking at the institution to offer camaraderie.

Personal supportJames E. JohnsonWheaton CollegeCondolences
AudioNARA Description

On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and James E. Johnson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:07 pm to 12:08 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 805-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 805-15

Date: October 19, 1972
Time: 12:07 pm - 12:08 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with James E. Johnson.

[See Conversation No. 31-141]
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello?
Yeah, I just wanted to tell you I heard about your boy, and I just wanted to wish you the very best.
You've done a great work, and we always want to come out.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's one of those things that happens, and I know that it's going to be very hard for you and your family, but just stick in there.
Yeah.
Keep the faith.
Good.
And I talked to Willie Graham the other day.
He said you were going to Wheaton.
Right.
Well, I'm glad you're going out there.
I spoke there many years ago on the Capitol when I was running for vice president.
You can say that when you speak with the president.
I spoke there many years ago before most of them were born.
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