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Nixon, Butterfield & Bull on 1972 Presidential Election and George McGovern

Wednesday, November 8, 1972 · 9:31 AM–9:48 AM ET · Oval Office · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.; Bull, Stephen B.Conversation813-013 on Tape 813StartWednesday, November 8, 1972 at 9:31 AMEndWednesday, November 8, 1972 at 9:48 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 813-013 ↗

President Nixon met with Alexander P. Butterfield and Stephen B. Bull shortly after the 1972 presidential election to address administrative and correspondence matters. Discussions focused on the President's post-election letter to George McGovern, involving coordination with staff members Patrick Buchanan and H.R. Haldeman. Additionally, the participants reviewed the incoming election returns, specifically noting results from California.

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Sir, this has got to be, this has got to be 2-1-1-1-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
I doubt that it did.
I just talked about it two minutes ago.
I got it out of his office about a year ago.
No, I think I can't do this.
This is a little more of the emergency.
That's not all.

On November 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:31 am and 9:48 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 813-013 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 813-13

Date: November 8, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:31 am and 9:48 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

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                                                               Conversation No. 813-13 (cont’d)

       1972 election
            -The President’s letter to George S. McGovern
                   -Patrick J. Buchanan
                   -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

Butterfield left at 9:33 am and Stephen B. Bull entered at an uknown time after 9:31 am.

       1972 election
            -Returns
                   -California

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Bull left at an unknown time before 9:48 am.
  • 033-067 9:14 AM · 39 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 9:14 am.
  • 033-068 9:14 AM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:14 am and 9:16 am.
  • 813-009 9:14 AM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 9:14 am.
  • 813-010 9:14 AM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:14 am and 9:16 am.
  • 813-011 9:14 AM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:14 am and 9:16 am.
  • 033-069 9:16 AM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Harry S. Dent talked on the telephone from 9:16 am to 9:29 am.
  • 813-012 9:16 AM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Harry S. Dent met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:16 am to 9:29 am.
  • 813-014 9:48 AM · 25 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:48 am to 9:51 am.

Conversation 813-013, November 8, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/813-013 (accessed October 10, 2026).