Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 822 › Conversation 822-007

Nixon & Bull on Henry M. Jackson and George P. Shultz

Wednesday, December 13, 1972 · 3:47 PM–3:48 PM ET · Oval Office · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation822-007 on Tape 822StartWednesday, December 13, 1972 at 3:47 PMEndWednesday, December 13, 1972 at 3:48 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 822-007 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon directed Stephen B. Bull to rearrange his daily schedule by delaying a meeting with Senator Henry M. Jackson. To facilitate this shift, Nixon instructed Bull to coordinate with the Secretary of Defense to ensure a preceding meeting with George P. Shultz concluded promptly. The primary goal of these adjustments was to restrict access to Jackson and manage the timing of high-level briefings regarding international travel and oil policy.

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Thank you.

I don't want anybody meeting with Jackson.

I'm going to hold and have it delayed 15 minutes.

Call the Secretary of National Defense.

You know, that's late.

But the Secretary will have to tell them we're delayed.

Ask the Secretary to break the meeting up sharply before the meeting with Jackson.

That's late.

NARA Description

On December 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:47 pm and 3:48 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 822-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 822-7

Date: December 13, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:47 pm and 3:48 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President’s schedule
            -Meeting with George P. Shultz
            -Meeting with Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                  -Trip to Europe and Middle East
                         -Oil
                               -John D. Ehrlichman
                  -Delay
                         -Shultz

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:48 pm.

Also recorded on December 13, 1972

822-005 2:57 PM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald H. Walker, Dwight L. Chapin, Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:57 pm to 3:07 pm.
822-006 3:08 PM · 39 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Anne L. Armstrong, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:08 pm to 3:47 pm.
822-008 3:48 PM · 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, Edwin S. Cohen, and Lewis A. Engman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:48 pm to 4:13 pm.
034-063 4:13 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:13 pm and 4:15 pm.
822-009 4:13 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:13 pm and 4:15 pm.
822-010 4:13 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:13 pm and 4:15 pm.
034-064 4:15 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:15 pm and 4:47 pm.
822-011 4:15 PM · 39 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson, Manolo Sanchez, White House operator, Stephen B. Bull, and Milton Friedman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:15 pm to 4:55 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 822-007, December 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/822-007 (accessed October 1, 2026).