Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 822 › Conversation 822-010

Nixon & Bull on Henry M. Jackson and Political strategy

Wednesday, December 13, 1972 · 4:13 PM–4:15 PM ET · Oval Office · 17 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation822-010 on Tape 822StartWednesday, December 13, 1972 at 4:13 PMEndWednesday, December 13, 1972 at 4:15 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 822-010 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met briefly in the Oval Office to coordinate the timing and logistics of a scheduled meeting with Senator Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson. The conversation centered on the potential negative impact that interrupting or delaying the senator might have on their professional relationship and mutual trust. No further policy decisions were recorded during this short exchange.

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Sir, are you ready?

Yeah.

If you let him go, he'll lose his trust in you.

NARA Description

On December 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:13 pm and 4:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 822-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 822-10

Date: December 13, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:13 pm and 4:15 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President's schedule
            -Meeting with [Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson]
                  -Interruption
                         -Timing
                                               -20-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                               Conversation No. 822-14 (cont’d)

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:15 pm.

Also recorded on December 13, 1972

822-007 3:47 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:47 pm and 3:48 pm.
822-008 3:48 PM · 24 min — President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, Edwin S. Cohen, and Lewis A. Engman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:48 pm to 4:13 pm.
034-063 4:13 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:13 pm and 4:15 pm.
822-009 4:13 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:13 pm and 4:15 pm.
034-064 4:15 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:15 pm and 4:47 pm.
822-011 4:15 PM · 39 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson, Manolo Sanchez, White House operator, Stephen B. Bull, and Milton Friedman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:15 pm to 4:55 pm.
034-065 4:47 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Milton Friedman talked on the telephone from 4:47 pm to 4:48 pm.
034-066 4:48 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:48 pm and 11:59 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 822-010, December 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/822-010 (accessed October 1, 2026).