Nixon White House TapesTape 839 › Conversation 839-004

Nixon & Bull on 1973 federal budget and Congressional leadership

Tuesday, January 23, 1973 · 8:30 AM–8:32 AM ET · Oval Office ·4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation839-004 onTape 839StartTuesday, January 23, 1973 at 8:30 AMEndTuesday, January 23, 1973 at 8:32 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 839-004 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate scheduling for upcoming meetings with Congressional leadership regarding the 1973 budget and legislative initiatives. The discussion focused on finalizing the timing for bipartisan briefings and clarifying the involvement of Roy L. Ash and William E. Timmons. Nixon emphasized the need for caution and political strategy in handling these sensitive materials to ensure the information remained secure.

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Yes, sir, we just have one attempt now.
Oh, ah, before you get started.
I'm sorry.
Yes, the attempt is to submit the details of the initiative and the bipartisan initiatives this week, with which, uh, we need to, to question what the outcome of the initiative would be if everything proceeds accordingly.
On Wednesday, we would have a discussion of 73 budget compilations with Gloria Nash.
Excuse me.
Not this week.
Not this week.
Next week.
You mean this is tomorrow?
Yes, sir.
You mean tomorrow, with regard to the...
What was today?
Today's series.
Please.
Please cut that.
It's abused.
It's not safe.
It's not safe.
Now this is where it's quite partisan.
Thank you.

On January 23, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:30 am and 8:32 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 839-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 839-4

Date: January 23, 1973
Time: Unknown between 8:30 am and 8:32 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President's schedule
            -Republican leadership of Congress
            -Bipartisan leadership of Congress
                  -1973 budget
                  -Roy L. Ash
                  -Vietnam
                  -Location
                  -Discussion topics
                  -William E. Timmons

Bull left at 8:32 am.
  • 400-015 8:22 AM · 52 sec — President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 8:22 am and 8:47 am.
  • 839-001 8:26 AM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:26 am and 8:32 am.
  • 839-002 8:26 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:26 am and 8:32 am.
  • 036-062 8:30 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 8:30 am.
  • 839-003 8:30 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 8:30 am.
  • 839-005 8:32 AM · 17 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:32 am and 8:52 am.
  • 036-063 8:55 AM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William S. White talked on the telephone from 8:55 am to 9:03 am.
  • 404-001 8:55 AM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon and William P. White met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:55 am to 9:03 am.

Conversation 839-004, January 23, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/839-004 (accessed September 18, 2026).