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Conversation 852-013

TapeTape 852StartWednesday, February 7, 1973 at 12:36 PMEndWednesday, February 7, 1973 at 12:40 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.;  Sanchez, ManoloRecording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez discuss administrative logistics regarding meeting durations and scheduling protocols for congressional visitors. The President emphasizes managing meeting lengths—specifically for members of Congress who prioritize brief interactions—to ensure efficient use of his time. Nixon directs Bull to arrange a 3:00 p.m. meeting with John T. Dunlop at the Executive Office Building, tasking him with coordinating the setup for that session.

Presidential SchedulingCongressional RelationsTime ManagementExecutive Office BuildingLogistics
AudioNARA Description

On February 7, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:36 pm and 12:40 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 852-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 852-13

Date: February 7, 1973
Time: Unknown between 12:36 pm and 12:40 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull and Manolo Sanchez.

       Meetings with President
             -Length
             -Photographs
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        (rev. Mar.-09)
                                                               Conversation No. 852-13 (cont’d)

              -Out of town visitors
              -Ease
              -Mothers
              -Congress
                     -Constituents
                            -Meeting with President
                     -Congressional half hour
                            -Length

       Weather
             -President’s coat

       President’s schedule
              -John T. Dunlop
                      -Executive Office Building [EOB]
              -Meeting
                      -George P Shultz
                      -Return to Oval Office
              -Alexander P. Butterfield [?]
                      -Office

The President, Bull, and Sanchez left at 12:40 pm.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

It's an easy break.
I don't mind that a bit, but I would tend more to have that in terms of the other people around here that come in.
But I would tend more to play to the Congress.
The congressional types, they have problems like that.
They want to follow the test rather than come to that table.
You see, we had a minor to that that we worked in on a very quick basis.
But the congressional types just wanted somebody to come in and say hello and shake hands.
So the only ones that the congressional have are where you stand.
Well, except I don't want those to be
We voluntarily couldn't do it, but Steve, he gave the congressman 10 minutes.
It ran to 20 or 30 at some time.
So if it's a question of somebody who's coming in to present and make a comment or something, then we could do it.
We can see what's required.
You can watch, but I'd never be concerned.
Just put them in.
You'll be nasty to say you've got 15 minutes.
Always thinking it takes 15 minutes any day for you to start a plan.
Alright, so we need to go now.
Please stop going.
Sir, I don't know if you know who I am.
Yes, sir, you do.
Let's leave it here.
I'll have the meeting, since they've done my thing, over at EOB.
See, I'll see, show us over there, and then you can say they've done my thing.
We'll walk over here at 3 o'clock.
That's all.
We'll just have it all set up.
So we'll come over.
I'll come over here at 3 o'clock.
I'll be here at 3.
So have them all set up at 3 o'clock.
Yeah.
It's fine.
It's fine.
It's fine.
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