Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 853 › Conversation 853-011

Nixon & Bull on George P. Shultz and White House scheduling

Thursday, February 8, 1973 · 12:24 PM–12:28 PM ET · Oval Office · 27 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation853-011 on Tape 853StartThursday, February 8, 1973 at 12:24 PMEndThursday, February 8, 1973 at 12:28 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 853-011 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed the President's upcoming schedule and the coordination of meetings with Secretary of the Treasury George P. Shultz. Nixon specifically instructed Bull to ensure that E. D. Kenna and W. Richard Howard were excluded from the follow-up meeting with Shultz. The conversation serves to manage access to the President and refine the roster of attendees for high-level administration deliberations.

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The president understands Secretary Shultz is going to come back in after he... Well... Yeah, yeah, but without Kenan and Howard too.
Yeah, and I'm always ready to go on with Secretary Shultz.
Yeah, well, it's going to be like that.
All right.
Dick Howard, he's going to stay out.
Dick Howard, he's...

On February 8, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:24 pm and 12:28 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 853-011 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 853-11

Date: February 8, 1973
Time: Unknown between 12:24 pm and 12:28 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President’s schedule
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                           Conversation No. 853-11 (cont’d)

              -Return of George P. Shultz
              -Meeting with E. D. Kenna
                     -W. Richard Howard
                            -Charles W. Colson’s office

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:28 pm.
  • 853-012 12:28 PM · 52 min — President Richard M. Nixon, W. Richard Howard, White House photographer, Eugene J. Hardy, E. D. Kenna, Stephen B. Bull, and George P. Shultz met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:28 pm to 1:19 pm.
  • 853-013 1:19 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:19 pm and 1:21 pm.
  • 853-014 1:21 PM · 17 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, John L. Campbell, John D. Ehrlichman, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., White House photographer, Jane Campbell, Charles J. DiBona, George P. Shultz, and Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:21 pm to 2:33 pm.
  • 409-018 1:28 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Zosimo Monson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:28 pm and 1:49 pm.
  • 409-021 1:28 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:28 pm and 1:49 pm.
  • 043-053 1:49 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 1:49 pm.
  • 409-019 1:49 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 1:49 pm.
  • 043-054 1:50 PM · 13 sec — Charles W. Colson and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:50 pm and 2:15 pm.

Conversation 853-011, February 8, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/853-011 (accessed October 12, 2026).