Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 854 › Conversation 854-020

Nixon & Bull on Rose Garden and John A. Scali

Tuesday, February 13, 1973 · 11:42 AM–11:43 AM ET · Oval Office · 40 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation854-020 on Tape 854StartTuesday, February 13, 1973 at 11:42 AMEndTuesday, February 13, 1973 at 11:43 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 854-020 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met briefly to coordinate logistics for a scheduled photo session with Ambassador John A. Scali. They discussed moving the shoot to the Rose Garden to take advantage of the pleasant weather. The President directed Bull to inform relevant staff of the change in venue before the participants proceeded with the walk and subsequent meeting.

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I think we'll have to get a different shot.
We'll walk outside this time.
It's already a pleasant day.
All right.
And, uh, basically, the ambassador and I will walk outside.
You can tell, uh, uh, tell, uh, say we're going to shoot outside.
We'll walk around here and come back and catch the thing.
We'll come back and talk about it.
Okay.

On February 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:42 am to 11:43 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 854-020 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 854-20

Date: February 13, 1973
Time: 11:42 am - 11:43 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President’s schedule
              -Photograph
              -Rose Garden
                      -Weather
              -Meeting with John A. Scali
              -Ronald L. Ziegler
              -Return to Oval Office

Bull and the President left at an unknown time before 11:43 am.
  • 854-019 10:59 AM · 44 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Stephen B. Bull, George P. Shultz, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:59 am to 11:42 am.
  • 043-063 11:13 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:13 am and 12:55 pm.
  • 043-064 11:13 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:13 am and 12:55 pm.
  • 854-021 11:43 AM · 34 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John A. Scali, and Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:43 am to 12:25 pm.
  • 043-065 11:47 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:47 am and 12:55 pm.
  • 854-022 12:25 PM · 53 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:25 pm to 12:26 pm.
  • 854-023 12:26 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:26 pm to 12:28 pm.
  • 854-024 12:29 PM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:29 pm to 12:35 pm.

Conversation 854-020, February 13, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/854-020 (accessed October 1, 2026).