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Nixon, Brown & Klein on Staff Departure and White House Personnel

Friday, April 13, 1973 · 11:50 AM–11:53 AM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Brown, Jeni; Klein, Herbert G.; White House photographerConversation895-018 on Tape 895StartFriday, April 13, 1973 at 11:50 AMEndFriday, April 13, 1973 at 11:53 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 895-018 ↗

President Nixon met with Herbert Klein and staff member Jeni Brown to formally acknowledge Brown’s departure from the White House staff. The brief session included a photograph to commemorate the occasion and a discussion regarding Brown’s future professional plans in California, specifically involving television and media work. Nixon offered encouragement for her career transition before presenting her with a parting gift.

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Another one of your girls is going to leave.
Hi, how are you?
Nice to see you.
Nice to see you.
Let's see, let's take a picture of her over here, shall we?
Let's take a picture of her.
Jenny, I just picked her up from work yesterday.
Well, it was last year.
Did you?
Yeah.
Oh, my.
Where are you going now?
You're going to California?
Right, right.
Great.
OK.
We'd be lucky to get you.
Do it on television.
Absolutely.
Do it.
Do a talk show with her.
Her voice, when you look at her, it's incredible.
I know.
Her is incredible.
Oh, yeah.
She's unbelievable in a whole way.
Honest.
What if either of you won't be able to talk anymore?
Yeah, as a child, I did.
Yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
Did you?
Oh, I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.

On April 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Jeni Brown, Herbert G. Klein, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:50 am to 11:53 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 895-018 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 895-18

Date: April 13, 1973
Time: 11:50 am - 11:53 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Jeni Brown and Herbert G. Klein. The White House photographer was
present at the beginning of this meeting.

     Greetings

     Brown
         -Departure from staff

     Photographs
          -Arrangements

     Brown’s plans
         -Campaign work
         -Location of job
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                            Conversation No. 895-18 (cont’d)

                    -California
                    -Television [TV]

     Brown’s background
         -Mojave, California
         -Family
               -Germany

     Gifts
             -Pen

Brown and Klein left at 11:53 am.
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Conversation 895-018, April 13, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/895-018 (accessed October 12, 2026).