Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 5 › Conversation 005-007

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on Elliot L. Richardson

Friday, June 11, 1971 · 4:08 PM–4:09 PM ET · White House Telephone · 7 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation005-007 on Tape 5 (tape position 00:09:29–00:09:36)StartFriday, June 11, 1971 at 4:08 PMEndFriday, June 11, 1971 at 4:09 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 005-007 ↗

President Nixon instructed the White House operator to place an outgoing call to Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare Elliot L. Richardson. This brief interaction served as a logistical precursor to a formal discussion regarding a New York Times article concerning the Secretary. The conversation facilitated the immediate transition to the subsequent official consultation between the President and Richardson.

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Just one call out.
No, no, stay right here.
Secretary Richardson, please.
Yes, sir.

On June 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:08 pm and 4:09 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-007 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 5-7

Date: June 11, 1971
Time: Unknown between 4:08 pm and 4:09 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator; Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon can be heard in
the background.

[See Conversation No. 517-25A]

     Call to Secretary Elliot L. Richardson

                                                                 Conversation
                                                                 Conv. No. 5-7No.
                                                                               (cont.)
                                                                                  5-8

Date: June 11, 1971
Time: 4:09 pm - 4:11 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked Elliot L. Richardson.

[See Conversation No. 517-25B]

     New York Times article on Richardson
         -John D. Ehrlichman
  • 517-021 2:38 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:38 pm and 2:40 pm.
  • 517-022 2:40 PM · 17 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Manolo Sanchez, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:40 pm to 2:57 pm.
  • 517-023 2:58 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:58 pm to 3:04 pm.
  • 517-024 3:04 PM · 19 sec — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:04 pm and 3:11 pm.
  • 517-025 3:11 PM · 58 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, White House operator, Stephen B. Bull, and Elliot L. Richardson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:11 pm to 4:11 pm.
  • 005-008 4:09 PM · 41 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Elliot L. Richardson talked on the telephone from 4:09 pm to 4:11 pm.
  • 005-009 4:59 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:59 pm and 5:16 pm.
  • 005-010 5:16 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 5:16 pm to 5:18 pm.

Conversation 005-007, June 11, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-007 (accessed October 12, 2026).