Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 6 › Conversation 006-005

Buchanan & Butterfield on Terry McGinnity and H.R. Haldeman

Monday, June 28, 1971 · 2:50 PM–5:59 PM ET · White House Telephone · 54 sec

ParticipantsButterfield, Alexander P.; White House operator; Buchanan, Patrick J.Conversation006-005 on Tape 6 (tape position 00:01:20–00:02:13)StartMonday, June 28, 1971 at 2:50 PMEndMonday, June 28, 1971 at 5:59 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 006-005 ↗

Alexander P. Butterfield consulted Patrick J. Buchanan for a quick assessment of Terry McGinnity prior to McGinnity’s brief meeting with President Nixon. Buchanan characterized McGinnity as an "okay guy" but expressed a tepid level of enthusiasm, noting that he was not overly impressed. Butterfield sought this input to provide the President with a brief evaluation following the scheduled handshake in the receiving line.

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Yes, please.
Buchanan Place, right away.
Thank you.
Hello?
Yeah.
This is Alex.
Very quickly, I'm about to take McGinnity in.
What was your impression?
Were you impressed or moderately so?
Haldeman hadn't seen him yet, but I've got to give the president a quick...
He's going to see the president?
Yeah, just for a quick handshake, because we're at the end of a mini receiving line.
That's the only reason.
Yeah.
I'm not overly impressed.
I mean, he seems like an okay guy, but I don't think he's seen him yet.
I mean, he's written one good letter.
I see.
Okay?
That's good.
Thank you.
All right.
Bye.

On June 28, 1971, Alexander P. Butterfield, White House operator, and Patrick J. Buchanan talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:50 pm and 5:59 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 006-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 6-5

Date: June 28, 1971
Time: Unknown between 2:50 pm and 5:59 pm
Location: White House Telephone

Alexander P. Butterfield talked with the White House operator.

     Call to Patrick J. Buchanan

Butterfield talked with Buchanan.

     Terry McGinnity
          -Forthcoming meeting with Butterfield
          -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
          -Forthcoming meeting with the President
  • 259-001 1:40 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:40 pm and 2:47 pm.
  • 006-002 2:47 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 2:47 pm to 2:48 pm.
  • 259-004 2:47 PM · 23 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:47 pm to 2:48 pm.
  • 006-003 2:48 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 2:48 pm.
  • 259-005 2:48 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 2:48 pm.
  • 006-004 2:49 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 2:49 pm to 2:50 pm.
  • 259-006 2:49 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:49 pm to 2:50 pm.
  • 259-007 2:53 PM · 1 hr 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:53 pm to 4:01 pm.

Conversation 006-005, June 28, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/006-005 (accessed October 5, 2026).