Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 8 › Conversation 008-036

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on First Lady

Tuesday, September 7, 1971 · 5:13 PM–5:20 PM ET · White House Telephone · 8 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation008-036 on Tape 8 (tape position 01:08:43–01:16:10)StartTuesday, September 7, 1971 at 5:13 PMEndTuesday, September 7, 1971 at 5:20 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 008-036 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 645078743 ↗

President Richard Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon engaged in a private telephone conversation regarding personal matters. The content of this dialogue remains restricted from public record due to its private nature, as indicated by the withdrawal of the segment from the archival file. No substantive policy decisions or administrative actions are associated with this interaction.

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On September 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 5:13 pm to 5:20 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 008-036 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 8-36

Date: September 7, 1971
Time: 5:13 pm - 5:20 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[See Conversation No. 275-22]

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 7m 26s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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No speech has been transcribed for this recording. An AI model that listened to the whole recording reported: Conversation withdrawn/silent due to Personal Returnable status following the initial greeting until the end of the recording. Material withdrawn by the National Archives (for privacy or national security) is replaced with a tone or silence in the released audio.

  • 008-032 5:09 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 5:09 pm.
  • 008-033 5:09 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 5:09 pm.
  • 275-018 5:09 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 5:09 pm.
  • 008-034 5:11 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ralph D. Albertazzie talked on the telephone from 5:11 pm to 5:12 pm.
  • 275-020 5:11 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Ralph D. Albertazzie met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:11 pm to 5:12 pm.
  • 008-035 5:12 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 5:12 pm.
  • 275-021 5:12 PM · 2 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 5:12 pm.
  • 275-022 5:13 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:13 pm to 5:20 pm.

Conversation 008-036, September 7, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 645078743). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/008-036 (accessed November 5, 2026).