Nixon White House TapesTape 725 › Conversation 725-021

Nixon alone in the Oval Office on First Lady and Oval Office

Tuesday, May 16, 1972 · 10:11 AM–10:12 AM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation725-021 onTape 725 (tape position 02:14:54–02:21:57)StartTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 10:11 AMEndTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 10:12 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 725-021 ↗

President Richard M. Nixon met with First Lady Pat Nixon in the Oval Office for a brief, one-minute discussion. Due to the lack of an available transcript and the restricted nature of the recording, the specific subjects addressed remain confidential. The session serves primarily as a record of their personal interaction during a period of significant presidential activity.

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This conversation has not yet been cut into its own clip, so the player above contains the full tape segment shared with neighbouring conversations. It begins about 02:14:54 into the tape and ends around 02:21:57.

No transcript is available yet for this conversation. The recording may contain no audible speech, or it may not have been processed.

On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:11 am and 10:12 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 725-021 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 725-21

Date: May 16, 1972
Time: Between 10:11 am and 10:12 am
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

      [See Conversation No. 24-148; one item has been withdrawn from
       the conversation.]
  • 024-145 9:59 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:59 am and 10:00 am.
  • 725-018 9:59 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:59 am and 10:00 am.
  • 024-146 10:00 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach talked on the telephone from 10:00 am to 10:05 am.
  • 725-019 10:00 AM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:00 am and 10:05 am.
  • 725-020 10:05 AM · 49 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 10:11 am.
  • 024-148 10:11 AM · 53 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 10:11 am to 10:12 am.
  • 725-022 10:12 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:12 am and 10:23 am.
  • 725-023 10:12 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:12 am and 10:23 am.

Conversation 725-021, May 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/725-021 (accessed September 18, 2026).