Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 9 › Conversation 009-139

Nixon phone call with Buchanan on Economic policy and Ways and Means Committee

Thursday, September 23, 1971 · 10:35 AM–10:38 AM ET · White House Telephone · 46 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Buchanan, Patrick J.Conversation009-139 on Tape 9 (tape position 04:43:44–04:44:30)StartThursday, September 23, 1971 at 10:35 AMEndThursday, September 23, 1971 at 10:38 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 009-139 ↗

President Nixon and Patrick J. Buchanan discussed the need for a brief official response regarding the Ways and Means Committee's recent tax actions. Nixon instructed Buchanan to draft the statement by cross-referencing public remarks made by Treasury official Charls E. Walker with George P. Shultz. The objective was to ensure administrative messaging remained consistent and aligned between the two officials.

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Yeah.
Which we can, Mr. President.
Yeah.
There you are.
Yes, sir.
One, I need a very brief, I think I know what the answer is, but I need a very brief responses to the ways and means action on the tax thing.
All right.
Now, it's pretty difficult for you to get that from.
I think Walker has already said something publicly, so you might get Walker's
You understand?
Right.
But check it against Schultz.
A little conflict.
Okay, fine.
Well, it may not be conflict, but I just want to be sure that it sort of runs the same way.
Yes, sir.
Will do.
Okay, fine.
Right.
Bye.

On September 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Patrick J. Buchanan talked on the telephone from 10:35 am to 10:38 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 009-139 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 9-139

Date: September 23, 1971

Time: 10:35 am - 10:38 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Patrick J. Buchanan.

[See Conversation No. 280-5]

     Economic policies
         -Ways and Means Committee
              -Tax action
                    -Statement by the President
                          -Charls E. Walker's public statements
                               -George P. Shultz
  • 280-003 10:01 AM · 31 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:01 am to 10:35 am.
  • 009-138 10:35 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 10:35 am.
  • 280-004 10:35 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 10:35 am.
  • 280-005 10:35 AM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Patrick J. Buchanan met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:35 am to 10:38 am.
  • 280-006 10:38 AM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:38 am and 11:15 am.
  • 280-007 10:38 AM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:38 am and 11:15 am.
  • 280-008 10:38 AM · 14 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:38 am and 11:15 am.
  • 280-009 11:15 AM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:15 am to 11:16 am.

Conversation 009-139, September 23, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/009-139 (accessed October 12, 2026).