Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 10 › Conversation 010-067

Nixon phone call with Henderson on Legislative strategy

Wednesday, October 6, 1971 · 8:28 AM–8:32 AM ET · White House Telephone · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Henderson, David N.Conversation010-067 on Tape 10 (tape position 02:22:03–02:24:55)StartWednesday, October 6, 1971 at 8:28 AMEndWednesday, October 6, 1971 at 8:32 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 010-067 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon spoke with Representative David N. Henderson to express appreciation for his legislative support and to discuss strategy for upcoming votes in the Senate. The President vowed to pressure Senate Minority Leader Hugh Scott to prevent opposition to the administration's tax bill and noted his intent to announce Phase II economic plans soon. Additionally, the two discussed hurricane damage in North Carolina and made a lighthearted agreement to attend a college football game between Duke and the University of North Carolina.

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NARA Description

On October 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and David N. Henderson talked on the telephone from 8:28 am to 8:32 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 010-067 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 10-67

Date: October 6, 1971
Time: 8:28 am - 8:32 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with David N. Henderson.

[See Conversation No. 283-15A]

     House of Representatives
         -Vote

     Senate
          -Hugh Scott

     President's schedule
          -Meeting with legislative leaders

     Hurricane
          -Gerald R. Ford

          -North Carolina
               -Damage
               -Moorehead City

     Sports
          -Duke University and the University of North Carolina
                -Performance
          -Duke
                -Victory over Stanford University
          -President's schedule

     Economics
         -Phase II announcement
         -House action on tax bill

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Hello.
Congressman Henderson for you.
Good morning, Mr. President.
Hello, Dave.
How are you?
It's fine, sir.
Well, I wanted you to know that I was in Florida at the time of the vote, but I just thought that was great.
And you said you'd come through, you know, and I didn't think you could get all those votes, but it was a tremendous job.
We got more on both sides than I really thought.
Right.
Just heard on television that they're going to try to torpedo us on the other body today.
I hope we can win over there, too.
Well, I'll tell you, we've got to win.
And I'm going to call Scott and really read it to him on this and tell him one thing they can do, they can talk it to death over there.
That's right.
And they should.
Yes, sir, I think you're right.
We'll be in touch with our North Carolina senators, too.
I'm surprised that this would be.
They still were there after our vote.
But, President, the meeting you had with us at the White House was most helpful.
I think you could see that we saw the cemented things on our side there.
Well, I know you suggested it, and I think it was just a great idea.
Tell me, Jerry Ford was telling me that you, did that hurricane hit you?
It came into...
Which one of your towns?
Moorhead City, Atlantic Beach.
Oh, yeah, you have that.
Yes, sir.
At the present time, the damage is not as severe as we first thought.
Good, good, good.
I don't believe the governor's going to find it.
wise to declare a national emergency area but well if there's anything down there uh you know that uh you know that we feel we can help have us do it i'll pass that along to the local people right tell them that you might even indicate i've asked about the damage and certain will and uh we will
I remember a lot of fellows from North Carolina when I was in law school.
They said, oh, he's speaking on a more important subject.
What do you think about our two North Carolina teams?
Both Duke and Carolina undefeated.
Did you notice that?
That's right.
Duke had the real victory this last week against Stanford.
I couldn't believe it.
Couldn't believe it.
You know, Stanford's a powerhouse.
Let us agree if they're undefeated when they meet in November, we'll flip down there, Mr. President.
I'll get my airplane and take you down.
Fair enough?
Very great.
I haven't been back since I left school, you know, for a game or anything.
Yes, sir.
We'll do it.
We'll do it.
But anyway, I do appreciate it.
This is worthwhile.
I'm going to be, for your information, I'm going to announce the Phase 2 thing.
probably tomorrow night.
Just keep it in your head.
We haven't yet made the final decision.
Very good.
We'll be watching.
And so that will make you realize that we're still sticking to our guns.
Well, we're going to be passing the tax bill today over in the House.
Good, good, good.
And that's essential.
And I certainly couldn't see how we could do that, trying to give you the tools and then torpedo you with this.
All right.
Well, I appreciate it.
Mr. President, it was a good operation.
Thank you.
Well, we couldn't have done it without you, believe me.
Thank you very much, sir.
Bye.
Bye.
Thank you.

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  • 283-013 8:25 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Barry M. Goldwater met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:25 am to 8:27 am.
  • 010-066 8:27 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:27 am and 8:28 am.
  • 283-014 8:27 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 8:27 am.
  • 283-015 8:28 AM · 32 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, David N. Henderson, White House operator, and Hugh Scott met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 8:28 am to 9:05 am.
  • 010-068 8:32 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 8:32 am.
  • 010-069 8:32 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 8:32 am and 8:50 am.

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Conversation 010-067, October 6, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/010-067 (accessed November 1, 2026).