Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 13 › Conversation 013-037

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on George P. Shultz

Friday, October 29, 1971 · 3:20 PM–4:10 PM ET · White House Telephone · 9 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); White House operatorConversation013-037 on Tape 13 (tape position 01:27:18–01:27:27)StartFriday, October 29, 1971 at 3:20 PMEndFriday, October 29, 1971 at 4:10 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 013-037 ↗

President Nixon initiates a request to the White House operator to place a telephone call to George P. Shultz, then serving as the Director of the Office of Management and Budget. The conversation serves solely as a brief administrative coordination to facilitate direct communication between the President and Shultz. No substantive policy discussions occur during this brief operator-assisted exchange.

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Yes, please.
George Schultz.
Yes, Mr. President.

On October 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:20 pm and 4:10 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-037 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 013-037

Date: October 29, 1971
Time: Unknown between 3:20 pm and 4:10 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

[See Conversation No. 302-18A]

     Request for a call to George P. Shultz
  • 302-014 3:05 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:05 pm and 3:06 pm.
  • 013-034 3:06 PM · 50 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 3:06 pm to 3:08 pm.
  • 302-015 3:06 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:06 pm to 3:08 pm.
  • 013-035 3:08 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:08 pm and 3:10 pm.
  • 302-016 3:08 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:08 pm and 3:10 pm.
  • 013-036 3:10 PM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Nelson A. Rockefeller talked on the telephone from 3:10 pm to 3:20 pm.
  • 302-017 3:10 PM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Nelson A. Rockefeller met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:10 pm to 3:20 pm.
  • 302-018 3:20 PM · 1 hr 50 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, George P. Shultz, Manolo Sanchez, unknown person(s), and John C. Whitaker met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:20 pm to 5:16 pm.

Conversation 013-037, October 29, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-037 (accessed September 30, 2026).