Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 13 › Conversation 013-038

Nixon phone call with Shultz on Department of Agriculture

Friday, October 29, 1971 · 4:10 PM–4:11 PM ET · White House Telephone · 28 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.Conversation013-038 on Tape 13 (tape position 01:27:27–01:27:55)StartFriday, October 29, 1971 at 4:10 PMEndFriday, October 29, 1971 at 4:11 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 013-038 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417190291 ↗

A 28-second recording. What it contains is described by the archivists' log below; no AI summary is shown for recordings this short.

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On October 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz talked on the telephone from 4:10 pm to 4:11 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 013-038 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 013-038

Date: October 29, 1971
Time: 4:10 pm - 4:11 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with George P. Shultz.

[See Conversation No. 302-18B]

     President's schedule
           -Shultz
           -John D. Ehrlichman

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Yeah.
Mr. George Schultz.
George.
Yes, sir.
You wanted to go over some things.
John and I just are finishing on this Department of Agriculture thing, so we can, anytime you're ready, you can come over.
Okay, fine.
You're free now?
Yes, sir.
I'll be right along.
Don't break anything up, because I could do it in a half hour, if it's just as well.
Well, we're just finishing up a meeting on this.
Well, take your time.
Finish your meeting, because I'll be here until, you know, 5.30.
Okay, well, thank you.
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  • 013-037 3:20 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:20 pm and 4:10 pm.
  • 302-018 3:20 PM · 1 hr 50 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, George P. Shultz, Manolo Sanchez, unknown person(s), and John C. Whitaker met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:20 pm to 5:16 pm.
  • 013-039 4:11 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and 4:55 pm.
  • 013-040 4:55 PM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and John C. Whitaker talked on the telephone from 4:55 pm to 4:56 pm.

Conversation 013-038, October 29, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417190291). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/013-038 (accessed November 14, 2026).