Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 23 › Conversation 023-158

Nixon, Kissinger & Moorer on Operational Security and Vietnam War

Thursday, May 4, 1972 · 3:55 PM–5:15 PM ET · White House Telephone · 51 sec

ParticipantsKissinger, Henry A.; White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Moorer, Thomas H. (Adm.); Kissinger, Henry A.; White House operator; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Moorer, Thomas H. (Adm.)Conversation023-158 on Tape 23StartThursday, May 4, 1972 at 3:55 PMEndThursday, May 4, 1972 at 5:15 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 023-158 ↗

Henry Kissinger contacts Admiral Thomas H. Moorer to coordinate a high-priority, clandestine meeting with President Nixon. Kissinger instructs Moorer to expedite the departure of a visiting Taiwanese admiral to ensure immediate availability for the President. The conversation emphasizes strict operational security, specifically warning Moorer not to disclose his movements to anyone.

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Yes, please.
Get me Admiral Moore and put Admiral... You want him over here?
There you are.
Tom?
Yes, sir.
Can you come right over to my office without telling anybody?
Sure, in about ten minutes or so.
Can you be...
I've got a Chinese admiral here.
As soon as I can get him out, I will.
Well, get rid of him as fast as you possibly can, will you?
All right.
Because the president wants to talk to you, but don't tell anyone you are coming over.
Okay.
Good.

On May 4, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger, White House operator, President Richard M. Nixon, and Adm. Thomas H. Moorer talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 5:15 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 023-158 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 23-158

Date: May 4, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:55 and 5:15 pm
Location: Old Executive Office Building

Henry A. Kissinger talked with the White House operator.
[See also Conversation No. 334-44G]

     Request for a call to Thomas H. Moorer

Kissinger conferred with the President at an unknown time.

[See Conversation No. 334-44G]

[End of conferral]

Kissinger talked with Moorer.

     Moorer's meeting with Kissinger
         -Confidentiality
               -Moorer's meeting with unknown Taiwan, Republic of China admiral
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  • 023-154 3:04 PM · 31 sec — the White House operator, Henry A. Kissinger, and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:04 pm and 3:44 pm.
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  • 023-159 3:55 PM · 11 sec — Alexander P. Butterfield, Henry A. Kissinger, President Richard M. Nixon, and John B. Connally talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 5:15 pm.
  • 023-160 3:55 PM · 11 sec — Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 5:15 pm.
  • 023-161 3:55 PM · 7 sec — Henry A. Kissinger and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 5:15 pm.
  • 023-162 3:55 PM · 41 sec — Alexander M. Haig, Jr., White House operator, and Muriel Hartley talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 5:25 pm.

Conversation 023-158, May 4, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/023-158 (accessed October 24, 2026).