Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 25 › Conversation 025-123

Nixon phone call with Ziegler on Press conference and Foreign policy

Thursday, June 22, 1972 · 12:56 PM–1:08 PM ET · White House Telephone · 11 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.Conversation025-123 on Tape 25 (tape position 05:03:06–05:14:31)StartThursday, June 22, 1972 at 12:56 PMEndThursday, June 22, 1972 at 1:08 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 025-123 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417193869 ↗

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler consulted to coordinate strategy for an upcoming press conference. They focused on refining the administration's responses to anticipated questions regarding General John Lavelle, foreign policy, and the anti-ballistic missile (ABM) system. Additionally, they reviewed coordination with Defense Secretary Melvin Laird concerning arms control negotiations and the impact of the pending defense budget vote.

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On June 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 12:56 pm to 1:08 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 025-123 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 25-123

Date: June 22, 1972
Time: 12:56-1:08 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.

[See Conversation No. 344-22]

     The President’s forthcoming press conference
          -Gen. John Lavelle
               -Possible question
                      -The President’s view
          -Foreign policy questions
               -Response
               -Melvin R. Laird
                      -Decisions
                      -Defense Department
               -Follow-up questions
               -Responses
                      -President's manner
               -Anti-ballistic missile [ABM] system
               -Draft
          -Amendment
          -Conditions
          -US position
                      -Concessions
                      -President's statement
                            -Laird
                            -Ziegler's explanation
                            -United Press International [UPI] reports
                                  -Ziegler’s statement
                                        -Wording
                                        -The President’s view
                            -Laird
                            -Arms control talks
                                  -Vote on defense budget
                                        -Statement
                                        -Impact
                                  -President's statement

     President's schedule
          -Forthcoming press conference
                -Length

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  • 025-121 12:14 PM · 35 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Constance M. Stuart talked on the telephone from 12:14 pm to 12:15 pm.
  • 344-019 12:14 PM · 35 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Constance M. Stuart met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:14 pm to 12:15 pm.
  • 025-122 12:15 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:15 pm and 12:56 pm.
  • 344-020 12:15 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:15 pm and 12:56 pm.
  • 344-021 12:15 PM · 19 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:15 pm and 12:56 pm.
  • 344-022 12:56 PM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:56 pm to 1:08 pm.
  • 344-023 1:08 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:08 pm and 1:35 pm.
  • 344-024 1:35 PM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:35 pm to 1:45 pm.

Conversation 025-123, June 22, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417193869). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/025-123 (accessed October 31, 2026).